134 - Version of 15 August 02

Version of 15 Aug. 2002

A Still All Too Short List Of Those Who Have So Far Shown To Me Some Interest In Their Libertarian CD-ROM Publishing Options. However, this short address list is here listed in additional pages - to enable me to supply some details on most. Merely a beginning, but, hopefully, not yet an end to this project, regardless of how slowly this listing has grown so far.

A shorter list of these addresses, coming only to 16 pages, is also available by e-mail.

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Added to names addresses and URLs, to the extent that they are known, are some extracts, comments, suggestions etc., still unedited and open to corrections and further entries or complete entries by those listed.

This longer list, too, is available from me upon request, free of charge, but with the request to make it also accessible to others.

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NOTE REGARDING THIS LIST:

For some years now I have mentioned the CD-ROM option for libertarians in my letters. Few had responded positively. They are listed below. I will also list new entries which you may be able and willing to supply. Moreover, I am prepared to email the expanded list to anyone interested, especially to those willing to go ahead with the project, combining the offered Mbs and editing the total properly for a CD-ROM edition. My apologies are offered to those whom I did unintentionally omit. Please point out my omissions and supply additional addresses and corrections.

I do also prefer self-descriptions to my own sometimes inapt and incomplete ones.

For the first editions mainly those Mbs batches might be included which would not lead us into copyrights hassles. However, copyrights lovers are free to do their own things and make their rights reservations on their CD-ROM contributions as well or issue their own CD-ROMs quite filled with copyrighted materials only. They could make the same copyrights reservation on CD-ROMs as they do on their Internet sites.

I for one am not skilled enough to compile the first libertarian and cooperatively compiled CD-ROM myself.

You may be, so name yourself for the job. You might, if you are lucky, get better job offers, more customers or members as a result. Most importantly, you would bring all of us a bit closer to liberty, peace, justice and prosperity, perhaps even to immortality and the stars.

"Think like a man of action. Act like a man of thought." - Henri Bergson. - But then who follows his own advice? - J.Z., 15.8.02.

All the books that e.g. LFB offers at any time could, possibly, be offered cheaply on a single CD-ROM or, anyhow, very few of them. So far it offers only a single CD-ROM, the American Freedom Library. (See under Lex Rex). Neither LFBs nor libertarian writers, editors, publishers and readers have so far learned enough from the example set by this freedom library, $ 90 for its ca. 160,000 pages, which in print on paper cost $ 11,000 to $ 15,000. This in spite of the fact that they take pride in their knowledge of economics, of computers and of the Internet.

Help to put all freedom writings at least on CD-ROMs or online - if not for yourself then for the people in developing countries, who could not afford the printed editions.

Your very survival may depend upon all of them being made finally easily, cheaply and permanently made available. It is not a matter of finance but of insight, will, determination and initiative and a labor of love. - J.Z., 8/02.

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4LITERATURE LIBRARY ON CD-ROM: "Buy more than 2,000 literary works on a single CD-ROM for only $ 19.99. That's less than a penny per book!" Among them, listed online, on 34 pages, are many of interest to libertarians. www.4literature.net

ABSHIRE, BRIAN M., Rev., The Chalcedon Foundation, April 1997: "The need for big books will always be there, but now, entire libraries can be put on CD-ROM, with fantastic search capabilities. Computers and the cheap publishing costs will also allow us to target specific niches in the market. We can identify specific needs, create multimedia presentations aimed at that need, and put the information directly into people's hands." abshire@ix.netcom.com. The Chalcedon Foundation represents Christian, Conservative & Libertarian views. Its founder, Rev. R.J. Rushdoony, opposed legal tender paper money and the over-population notions.

ACTIVATE NETWORK, www.activate.8m.com/project.htm Site recommended by Hugh Trevelyan (see below) of Anarchist Yellow Pages. copsaretops@hotmail.com They did intend to offer the best anarchist texts on a CD-ROM but did not continue with this project beyond a long URL list. Some of its young people may take it up again later.

"Activism" seems to have been their main thing. They seem to be young left anarchists. Finally, one of them replied, saying that they had given up on the CD-ROM project. No reasons were given. Another great freedom opportunity passed by - here by young anarchists. However, even they grow up and some may remember their best intentions.

ADAM SMITH RESEARCH CENTRE (ASRC) Centrum im. Adama Smitha Fundacja Akcji Gospodarczej (CAS) Bednarska St. 16 Warsaw, 00-321, Poland tel:48-22-828-47-07 fax:48-22-828-06-14. It offers its research findings on multimedia CD-ROMs. e-mail:adam.smith@adam-smith.pl URL:http://www.adam-smith.pl/ Source of information: NIRA Update, May 1998. Comments and Suggestions to nwdtt@nira.go.jp / www.nirq.go.jp NIRA's World Directory of Think Tanks. National Institute for Research Advancement (NIRA). How many other think tanks were thoughtful or poor enough to produce anything of their research on CD-ROM?

AGNOSTOPOULOS, ATHAN, Greek Writings and Words, an electronic compilation. According to a report by Any Dabilis, in Athens, this scholar is building a giant database on Europe's oldest language. smh, 24.3.01. Then he was 68. "So far, he 50 million words." ... "He estimates he has more than 20,000 works recorded." - "... he and about a dozen researchers have scanned more than 3 million pages of stories, newspaper articles, books, and magazines." The purpose is to "include the entire corpus of Greek writers." - The article was originally published by the Boston Globe. - Now, when will the freedom lovers show their love for freedom by doing the same for all freedom texts, in modern translations, quite a few from Greek originals? - Need one stress to libertarians the Greek origin of much of the pro-freedom thinking? - J.Z., 18.6.02.

ALL-TIME CLASSIC BEST SELLERS, www.classicbooksoncd.com/ by EARTH STAR PUBLISHING, infor@classicbooksoncd.com , 2002. "The new, easy-to-use ALL-TIME CLASSIC BEST SELLERS CD-ROM contains 1,097 unabridged and original versions of bestselling classic books, short stories, plays and poems in a versatile electronic text (e-text) format. … for less than 3 c each! If you were to buy the hard copy versions of these, you would pay at least $ 5,000. You save space. No book shelves required. … You save time. Each book … can be found quickly and easily. … You can electronically search … $ 29.95." It contains some titles of interest to libertarians and SF fans.
 
 

ALTERNATIVE PRESS INDEX, v.1- , 1969- . "A subject index to more than 200 "leftist to radical opinion" English language periodicals. Includes many highly regarded publications that are not indexed elsewhere. Covers a wide range of interests including gay/lesbian, native peoples, environmental issues, animals' rights, senior citizens, etc. Includes editorials, interviews, obituaries, speeches, poems, fiction, songs, and reviews. The University does NOT subscribe to all the periodicals included in this index. Search MNCAT for our holdings. If you do not find the title in MNCAT, see boxed note below. Location: Wilson (Library) Reference quarto AI3 .A27; also on CD-ROM in Wilson Reference, inquire at Reference Desk. " With this hint the University of Minnesota library points out 3 microfilm collections of the Underground newspapers.

AN-OK TA CHAI, yan_ock@lycos.com 26.12.01: "Anarchist books on CD-ROM business. … I read your letter in the recent issue of magzine "Anarchy: A Journal Of Desire Armed", # 52, Fall/Winter. My name is (I)An-ok Ta Chai, and I'm a self-proclaimed 'Anarcho-Computer Nerd'. J - Me and a friend of mine are interested in working with you on the Anarchist books-onCD-ROM project as a money-making business. We are both well-read (in both the left and the right) anarchists, and we are both experienced with computers, CD burners, scanning and OCR soft-ware. We are willing and able to work with you on this as a full-time job, however, we would like to have enough income coming from this in order to pay for our bare essentials to live. - So, this brings up the question - how can we turn this into a money-making business? Even more tricky is, how do we do this if you live in Australia and we live in the U.S.? Despite our anarchist knowledge and computer knowledge, we do not have knowledge with starting new business. - We are both extremely excited about this project, and would even be willing to move to Australia to help you work on this. However, like I said, we would want to be able to afford for our bare necessities to covered by this. - We are both eagerly awaiting your reply and want to open up a meaningful, constructive and productive dialogue around this." - I wrote them a long reply on the same day and deflated their optimism. So far there is no income in sight from this project but mainly only labors of love. If some of those interested are financial enough to pay others something for these labors of love - all the better. So far, on my short list, there seem to be no such people. If it sufficiently expands, they might get entered as well. Also people with management talent. I suggested to them that they could work on the project where they are, in their spare time, and try to sell their product through the anarchist periodicals and websites.

APPROPRIATE TECHNOLOGY SOURCEBOOK, "A shared set of Appropriate Technology Sourcebook--an indexed collection of 150,000 pages available on fiche or CD-ROM for $495--is probably the best single thing that a cluster of Third World villages could have." - Kevin Carson in: A "Political" Program for Anarchists. (At least some monetary freedom & cooperative production ideas have penetrated into this platform. At least in some circles anarchist thinking is on the move.)

ARCHIVAL BOOKS, www.archivalbooks.cominfor@archivalbooks.com offers 10 CDs on US & World History & 15 on War History, each containing from 2-32 books. Among them the Abraham Lincoln Collection of 6 books and the 2 CDs on the History of Rome & the Roman People might be of interest to libertarians.

BACKWOODS HOME MAGAZINE, "practical ideas for self-reliant living". "9 Print Anthologies, 11 CD Anthologies plus a free 2-year subscription … save $ 144." Special: Any print or CD anthology only $ 10. Ave $ 2.95 - $ 9.95 each. Activist: Oliver Del Signore. www.backwoodshome.com It still produces current issues in print on paper. - Not a bad combination. "Del Signore suggestes it is time for Americans to start refusing to comply with unconstitutional laws and edicts at all levels of government." - www.free-market.net/rd664168590.html Their 11 CD-ROM Anthologies: 1) Years 7-10 (1996-99): $ 19.95, 2) BHMs 11^th year, 2000, $ 12,95, 3.) BMH's 12^th year, 2001, $ 12.95, 4.) Massad Ayoob On ?Firearms, $ 12.95, 5.) Best of John Silveira Anthology, $ 12,95, 6.) The Coming American Dictatorship Series, $ 12.95, 7.) Best of Jackie Clay, $ 12,95, 8.) Alternative Energy Anthology, $ 12,95, 9.) Can America Be Saved From Stupid People and other essays by Dave Duffy, $ 12.95, 10.) Emergency Preparedness & Survival Guide, $ 12.95, 11.) Best of Richard Blunt6, $ 12.95. - It still produces current issues in print on paper. - Not a bad combination, seeing the remaining addiction to "paper tigers". Some time ago I was offered the rights to AUSTRALIAN SURVIVOR for A $ 2,000 but was not interested in paying as much for such material, seeing my great backlog of free material. However, someone might be able and willing to turn it into a successful CD-ROM edition. Freedom is also about survival, at every level. Christian noticed on their website and ad for www.modernsurvival.net The Magazine of Freedom and Independent Thought. Let's try to assure the survival of all libertarian writings, at least on CD-ROMs, and, perhaps, thereby, our own survival. "Del Signore suggested it is time for Americans to start refusing to comply with unconstitutional laws and edicts at all levels of government." - www.free-market.net/rd664168590.html

BANK OF WISDOM, Rare Books on CD-ROM. It offers in PDF 10 CDs, at $ 24.95 each, or the first 9 at a special for $ 199.95. 1. The Works of Robert G. Ingersoll, 2. An Introduction to Freethought. The Religion of Freedom, 3. An Appreciation of Thomas Paine, 4. Facts of Freethought, 5. Freethought and the Bible, 6. History of Woman Suffrage, 7. America. The Historic Facts, 8. The Unholy Inquisition, 9. The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, 10. The Vatican: World's Oldest Political Machine. "Electronic publishing to make the world better." - URL and e-mail address are not spelled out. If I had presently US $ 200 to spare … Alas, in my print-out of their web-pages the right hand side gets cut off. www.bank-of-wisdom.com

BELLIS, GIAN PIERO DE, gianpiero-debellis@libero.it 15.2.01: "I agree totally with you about the need for producing something, a collection on libertarian literature, focusing especially on less known texts (e.g. panarchy). I think somebody should coordinate the work (it might be you) and a clear proposal should be produced and circulated with a preliminary list of texts to be scanned/digitized (original and translations. - For my part I am presently involved in a project listing crimes and misdeeds of the Italian state from 1860 to the present time and I think that a general encyclopedia of state crimes is still missing (may be next project). Please, keep me informed about the progress of the cd-rom project in order to be of some help." - Greg Flanagan wrote me about the Bellis's website, www.polyarchy.org/ - It contains a manifesto on the history of statism and a description of what is an - anarchist & libertarian framework similar to Panarchy. There is also a large bibliography of other freedom writings. - I reproduced text of both in my most recent ON PANARCHY microfiche. (Now having reached volume XXVI.) As for his current project, I am reminded of the old Arabian proverb: "With a spoonful of honey you catch more flies than with a bucket full of vinegar!" Another comparison: The horrors of war, no matter how gruesome, haven't prevented war. On the other hand, the attractions of a comprehensive, consistent, liberating and thereby peace promoting programme, for all (but war criminals), have never been tried yet. My two peace books were mere steps in that direction. Another old proverb recommends: "Accentuate the positive". - The wilful crimes of territorial States are merely the inevitable consequence of the unconscious crime of territorial statism. - As for the CD-ROM project: One coordinator and one coordinated group cannot solve the whole libertarian publishing, library & information service problem. That's why I suggested a long list of interested people, from which xyz such groups could come to constitute themselves. One centre is merely needed to publicize all such self-publishing projects and efforts, to gain more collaborators and to avoid duplication of efforts. That centre could also produce a combined sales list for all such efforts. See the Libertarian Library project of John Humphreys. With publishing on-demand only and alternative media neither a publishing risk nor a finance problem is involved but merely the labour of collecting digitized texts or digitizing them and of combining them in such media. That makes this effort different from previous societies and publishers for the reprint of scarce old tracts, in print on paper, but similar to some of the vast microfilm collections produced over the last few decades, by over 400 microfilm publishers. - J.Z. 16.2.01. - Bellis has also recently established a multi-lingual website, and partly filled it himself, e.g. with his Italian translation of de Puydt's classical article on panarchy: www.panarchy.org . He intends to collaborate in compiling a CD-ROM on polyarchy and panarchy. Only recently has he discovered Bastiat's writings for himself and will translate some of them into Italian. He wants to combine the best writings on panarchism and polyarchy on his website and on a CD-ROM. Please do help him, me and yourself in this effort.

BEST, BEN, offered at least 3 MBs on Cryonics & Life Extension. benbest@benbest.com http://www.benbest.com/cryocdn.html I have microfiched much of his output.

BROW, PETER, inventor_92102@yahoo.com 6.12.00: "... interesting notes on CD-ROM and microfiche. I have often had thoughts along these lines too: how to archive and preserve libertarian literature." - In the following paragraphs he has reservations re the durability of data storage media and shows awareness of the archival value of microfilm and quality paper editions. Certainly, modern electronic media have several times needed conversions. But conversions can be automated and cheap - if undertaken in time. - J.Z. In his further letters he is exploring all the options & says his website NATION OF LIBERTY, is offering about 1Mb: www.geocities.com/libertarianrev Most unattributed articles are by him. His article "Why Libertarian Revolution?" attracted attention. He opposes territorial monopolies and considers himself to be a property-rights radical libertarian anarchist, whose libertarian "government" is compatible with the panarchist position. He is also interested in the libertarian microfiche option, especially for classical titles, together with a low-cost reader. He found out that CD/tape reproduction companies use CD-burners that rapidly burn 10 CDs at a time. US. computer scanners with OCR he quotes now as being available for US 80-90 and considers buying one himself. (By now I have seen them advertised by STRATHFIELD, June 02, for A $ 98 and 700 Mbs CD-ROM disks for A $ 39 cents!) He, too, is aware that it would be economical even to put only a few MBs on a CD-ROM. I hope people make use of this option when submitting their Mb contribution to whoever does the compiling for them. The advantage with CD-ROMs is the wide availability of the drives for them, he pointed out. - I might get around to reproduce all the relevant letters on fiche - or on CD-ROM! - Today I found out that with an old version of WINZIP one can put over 6 Mbs even an a single and, supposedly, "simple and outdated" floppy disk, with a normal capacity of 1.44 Mbs. I put 2 of my latest PEACE PLANS LITERATURE SUPPLEMENTARY LISTING, for PP 1546 to 1768 on one floppy disk. The 2 RTF files, came to 5.8 Mbs or 907 pages.

So, why is this enormous self-publishing option, likewise, largely ignored by anarchists and libertarians? - J.Z., 18.6.02. - We do not have to "march for capitalism". All classified ads pages and shopping centres and accumulations of market stalls do that much better. But we could set all freedom texts into march, on CD-ROMs, to conquer the world - or at least liberate all those who would welcome them, to the extent that they want to be liberated. - J.Z., 27.6.02.

BUTTERBACH, CHRISTIAN, www.butterbach.net/contact.htm - an individualist anarchist, small publisher and multilingual translator (German, English and French), intends to deal extensively with exterritorial autonomy ideas and writings in 3 languages. You can find there Werner Ackermann's Cosmopolitian Union project (based upon individual secessionism, exterritorial autonomy and voluntary associationism) in 3 languages. Also my compilation of hyphenated kinds of anarchism and their opposites (and much more, by himself and others). It has been there for over a year. His was the only response. As effective or ineffective is the Internet, all too often, in achieving collaboration on important subjects. C.B. still hosts the supplementary list for PEACE PLANS 1546-1620, and may come to host the updated LMP lists for PP 1546-1768. CB: I will! He recommended various websites for downloading. So did others. Thus I might come to add such a list. - J.Z., 14.1.01. (Just another of the accumulating projects! - J.Z., 27.6.02) - Free-Market.Net claims now that it refers to over 17,000 libertarian websites. I do not yet know how many anarchist references are gathered by one of the anarchist directories. Do you? How many Mbs do all these sites come to? CB is now considering putting the short list of the CD-ROM project on his website. CB: Done already!

CHAMPION, RAFE, rchamp@bigpond.net.au On 31 March 01 he replied: "Will consider the possibility of CD rom publication as you suggest." http://zap.to/rafechampion

CHOMSKY, NOAM, I noticed 2 multi-media CD-ROMs by this famous or infamous leftist and somewhat anarchistic writer, Noam Chomsky. Both were offered expensively (by JURA BOOKS with its low costs plus charges) and contained only the equivalent of one or two books or long lectures each - instead of 200 - 2,000 in full texts, without pictures and movie clips. Even THE LIBRARY OF THE FUTURE contains more genuine freedom texts in its single CD-ROM than these 2 "anarchistic" multi-media offers did - but only in plain text. I was not tempted by that "anarchist's" CD-ROM offer at all or by any of his many bound books. However, he seems to have been the first "anarchist" to have made use of this publishing medium. For that I can respect him. In April 01 AK Press advertised 2 audio CDs by him, these or additional ones: "In the first disc he speaks about the murky blood-soaked reality of America's New World Order - whether it's NAFTA, GATT and MAI, or our relations with Palestine, Israel, Haiti and China. The second disk has his lecture focusing on the motives and consequences of US Iraq policy - a continuing (though hardly unique) shiny example of murderous hypocrisy at its most lethal." - I'm not prepared to pay for his bias in print or on a CD. - J.Z. - "Chomsky, Noam: Classics in politics. CD-Rom met de volledige teksten van Class Warfare, The Culture of Terrorism, Fateful triangle, Necessary illusions, Powers & Prospects, Turning the Tide, World Orders, Old and New. Met zoekfaciliteiten (o.a. Boolean) en duizenden geïndexeerde onderwerpen. Geschikt voor Windows 3.1, 95/98 of NT, Mac & Unix. 2000 fr." : August 02 list of "ZWART & ROOD", Gent, postbus 86, 9000 GENT, Netherlands.

CLOUD, MICHAEL, "Two great talks on libertarian communication by Michael Cloud (on CD or tape) …" Talk 1: Personal Responsibility is the Price of Liberty. Talk 2: Liberty or Licence? $ 20, plus shipping, for LIBERATOR ONLINE readers from: www.reliablehost.com/self-gov/special.html - Adv. in LIBERTATOR ONLINE, 30.7.02. All of the Advocates' written output might fit onto a single text CD-ROM!

CONSULTATIVE GROUP FOR THE INTERNATIONAL AGRI-CULTURAL RESEARCH (CGIAR), Compact Agricultural Library, Full-Text Cd-Rom Libraries For International Development, a 25-disc collection, consisting of 5,500 books and reports and representing one of the largest integrated CD-ROM collections under production. "The benefits of CD-ROM over online include: Cost Savings, Access to More Primary Information, Greater Reliability." - Matilda Butler in her report about this library.

When will we get the libertarian equivalent together?

CONTEMPORARY POLITICAL STUDIES, Political Studies Association of the UK,. An integrated edition of the complete Contemporary Political Studies, 1994-97, including the full set of over 500 papers in 4 years of CPS, is now available on CD-ROM. This edition, with fast and full indexing and search facilities, is the ideal tool for finding that definitive reference or building up a bibliography. CPS CD-ROM is available now from the PSA, priced at just £10 for all those who attended the 1997 Annual Conference in Jordanstown. Otherwise, it is available free of charge, together with all new purchases of any one year's volumes of Contemporary Political Studies. It is planned that annual updates of CPS CD-ROM will be available to existing purchasers at low cost.The CD-ROM is designed to run under all versions of MS Windows, but includes versions which are suitable for other computers, such as the Apple. Orders should be sent to: PSA National Office, Department of Politics, University of Nottingham, Nottingham NG7 2RD, Tel/Fax: 01159514797, E-Mail: psa@nottingham.ac.uk - I doubt that many libertarian papers can be found there - but as a precedent for libertarian magazines, conferences and subscription incentives it is interesting. The medium has its message, one still to be fully comprehended and utilized by freedom lovers. In most countries there is no law against freedom lovers fully utilizing this freedom of expression and information opportunity.

CONTESSA, GUIDO, current e-mail address not known, wrote on 18 April 01: "... You can give my address to everyone (who) is interested; You can put my address in every list You wish (I don't understand the anti-spam and privacy obsession: the web is a free speace where we can also be observed and disturbed); You can use for Your work every page of my site www.psicopolis.com (there are no restriction(s): the web is a collective brain!). Bye, Guido." - I wish many other libertarians were so open-minded - and would let me know about it! - At least some of his pages are also in English. I have not yet downloaded all of them. - J.Z., 30.4.01.

DAGNY, dagny@freedomworld.org 28.1.01:"Re CD project, yes, it's a wonderful idea to do it for free distribution to people in developing nations, esp. with the new easier, better instant translation software now available. ... keep me apprised of that. I want to include info on it, including accepting donations (directly to you) from people who would want to pay to see the basic liberty material on disk in their language." - I replied: " The very small price that could be charged to cover the costs for pressing libertarian literature on a CD-ROM, plus mailing it, could be born even by most interested people in underdeveloped countries. At least groups of them could maintain a computer with a CD-ROM drive in someone's dwelling with telephone connection. See also her extensive web pages: FREEDOM WORLD, Home Page & Links, 2pp, in PP 1664/65: www.freedomworld.org annorkin@freedomworld.org Her website is one of the most comprehensive libertarian ones. I downloaded and microfiched much of it. - 8.7.02: She has instructed her webmaster to put the short version of the CD-ROM list on her website, hopefully, one day, with a self-entry option as well.

The main donations or permissions that are required for this project are Mbs, not $'s, enough to fill one or several CD-ROMs by several to many such contributors. Zipping could expand the 650 - 800 Mbs normal capacity of a CD-ROM several times, according to my experience today, with a floppy disk, about four times,to 2.6 Gbs! And more powerful DVDs with cheap drives are already available and still more powerful blue light CDs are coming up!

Seeing the current prices for disk blanks and burners,"financing", in the conventional sense, of on-demand publishing in this format, is hardly required. (A daily Australian newspaper does already cost me more, currently A $ 1,20!) But "filling" labours are needed, on a large scale! Best and cheapest as labors of love. 650 Mbs in text is a quantity of material that does require labour. How many Mbs were in your longest texts so far? How many websites do you know that offer 650 Mbs in text, or more, with their internal links,apart from illustrations?

Towards this objective, digitizing more libertarian texts, some people volunteering for such labours and living in underdeveloped countries MIGHT become sponsored by some people living in somewhat more free and developed other countries, to keyboard or scan texts in, for some pre-arranged payment. Such arrangements, too, could be offered in this list of interested people and could be done privately among them. They would combine private foreign aid with private foreign trade.

Future buyers of libertarian CD-ROMs: Listing all those who would declare now that they would be likely to buy such CD-ROMs, when they appear, would also be helpful, at least to encourage those, who would do the compiling of already digitized & available material and those who would have to do the additional digitizing work.

But advance subscription payments to promote this kind of publishing would NOT be necessary!

Advance offers of Mbs, not necessarily sending them in to me, are necessary. It would be better holding these Mbs. back until a compiler (or several) is agreed upon. That can all be done via private arrangements among those listed.

As I have stated repeatedly, I am so far probably the least suitable compiler, being still quite a novice with CD-ROMs, apart from using the Adaptec Direct Disk format for mere storage, not readable in most CD-ROM drives.

Financial sponsorship, if any, should rather go to those who do the additional digitizing work and so some of the authors or holders of copyrights of the material, who will make their copyrighted material available on CD-ROMs, while reserving copyrights for other editions, as they do on the Web.

I do not want to have anything to do with that. I do not even want to be paid for including my own writings and those by others for which I possess copyrights. I am not in it for the money but because I consider some ideas to be of extreme importance for our times.

I DO NOT WANT ANY FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTIONS TO THIS PROJECT to end up in my pockets. I do not need any for this. It has so far only cost me time, labor and relatively small e-mail connection charges, as part of my Internet connection.

Years ago I offered to cover the cost of a first run of some hundred such CD-ROMs - if only others supplied the Mbs required and were to more skilfully assemble them than I could then and even now. Since then the commercial prices have come down for pressing CD-ROMs from ready masters, to the almost ridiculously low level of A $ 50 cents each! At home 650 Mbs on a hard disk or in a CD-ROM can be copied onto a blank CD-ROM in a burner in about 15 - 20 minutes, I was told. Only some electricity use and wear and tear on the burner are involved. That would be a quite private on-demand publishing option, not involving any commercial agency at all. Naturally, a burner can probably produce only a limited number of CD-ROMs. The master CD-ROMs do also have their limits, I was told but was not yet given a life-span figure for them. Better quality CD-ROMs, supposedly lasting 5 times as long, are now also available for A $ 1.

If somebody else manages to make some money out of this project then he has my congratulations. I just want to pass on, as widely and cheaply as possible, ideas that I consider to be important.

Nevertheless, there was, so far, no rush by libertarian, beating a path to this new libertarian mouse-trap! This small, slim, cheap and shiny disk can trap and

preserve, multiply and spread, for years, 200 - 2000 books, which means, to me, it constitutes and enormous and still neglected opportunity for freedom lovers.

I know that even better things are still to come. But the presently available CVD's, with their drives becoming cheaper and cheaper and spreading as well, would merely compound the present problem of filling 650 Mbs in one CD-ROM about 7 to 8 fold! Most people consider them to be important only for movies! That would be the last thing I would consider them to be important for!

Once all freedom writings are available from the Web and downloads of a book are down to seconds, at very affordable prices, CD-ROMs might no longer be required. How close to or far away from that condition are we? Should we simply do nothing now, just wait and hope for the best? Great opportunities should be grasped fast. I have myself been still too slow in taking up this option, being very busy with expanding the number of titles published by my other hat: LIBERTARIAN MICROFICHE PUBLISHING. But my target, 2,000 libertarian microfiche, is now only 232 LMP microfiche away, a bit more than 3 years. Please do also note, that I find it still much easier and faster to ready 1-3 books for publication on a single microfiche than to scan in and proof-read 1-3 books for digital publishing. In some ways micrographics is still leading edge technology, no matter how much these facts are ignored by computer and Internet fans.

Book lovers are peculiar people. They still prefer a 500 year old technology for their collection and they might come to want them on their own CD-ROMs, rather than having them available online.

What I WOULD LIKE to get is NOT MONEY BUT MENTIONING & DISCUSSION of the project in other libertarian publications and circles, and in e-mails by other libertarians than myself, at least in one of the two shortest forms so far, an advertisement, of 135 words, and a short expose of 628 words. See the two attachments. You know how fast and wide a message could be spread if each recipient did fast pass it on merely to two others.

The most promising option to realize this project FAST - MIGHT be the placing of this all too short address list onto a popular libertarian website and this together with a program for self-entries. In this way the list could come to grow very fast and cooperation between those listed might come to grow likewise, so fast, that the list would make itself soon superfluous, as superfluous as is now a list of people who are interested in using CD-ROMs for games, software, music and encyclopaedias! Who will so host this list???

I produced a file, still very incomplete, that gives some background on general CD-ROM texts now available. It is a still very incomplete survey based on one only of the standard reference works, that I had time to pursue during one day in the ANL in Canberra. It is available from me upon request as an e-mail attachment. (My e-mails are double checked with 2 different virus checkers, updated every 2 hours, by my service provider.

In June 02 Dagny was the first to come forward with the offer to host the CD-ROM projects list on her website, together with a self-entry program. More recently, Hubert Jongen was the second. Christian Butterbach was the third. Will we soon have half a dozen or a dozen such invitations to such fruitful collaboration on the Internet - with a common URL for self-entries? - J.Z., 27.6.02.

DUBUC, VINCENT, vincent.dubuc@libertysurf.fr French individualist anarchist, intends to publish, in text only, on a CD-ROM e.g. 2 books of Pelloutier, a history of the "work houses" and Reclus' Evolution & Revolution, the anarchist ideal, and prepares the complete issue of E. Armand's "L'unique" and his excellent work Initiation to individualist anarchism. "The main interest for this medium is its price, the facility for a person to make his own and to make a copy for buyers. … This project is on its way". - I hope he will cooperate with many other individualist anarchists, not only in France, to really fill such a CD-ROM. - J.Z., 19.7.02.

ECONLIT ON CD-ROM, it indexes e.g. THE INDEPENDENT REVIEW OF The Independent Institute.

ELECTRIC BOOK COMPANY, THE, www.elecbook.com On CD it offers Edward Gibbon, Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire and Noam Chomsky, among others. Downloadable, 4 works of J.S. Mill, 3.34 Mbs, and Adam Smith, Wealth of Nations, 4.5 Mbs, both zipped. pat-coyne@poptel.org.uk "Some of our CDs have over 30,000 individual links … for the price of a single hardback."

ELECTRONIC TEXT CENTER, University of Virginia Library, established 1992, offers ca. 45.000 on & offline humanities texts in 12 languages. The majority are SGML encoded and Internet accessible… other items are available on CD-ROM in the Center. - Apparently, duplicate CD-ROMs are not yet for sale at or from the Center. Among others it offers: "Classics of American Politics".

ERIC, "Eric is the National Education Information Network for providing ready access to the literature of education -descriptions of exemplary programs, research and development efforts, and related information that can be used in developing more effective educational programs. The ERIC database is currently available on CD-ROM." www.eric.ed.gov In print it filled about 2 dozen thick volumes. It also brings information on libertarian education experiments and literature like that of Joseph Lancaster's "monitor system".

EuroPRO-Fem et EWRC mise à jour du CD-Rom 99 en l'an 2000, APPEL A CONTRIBUTIONS
présentez votre travail, votre organisation, vos informations sur le prochain CD-Rom et recevez un exemplaire gratuit. Le réseau européen des hommes proféministes < http://www.menprofemist.org/ > (une recherche-action soutenue en 1998 par la Commission Européenne) a pour ambition de réaliser une mise à jour annuelle du CD-Rom les thèmes de la masculinité, de la violence, de l'anti-sexisme, de l'homophobie etc ... Les documents peuvent être transmis sur disquette, zip et par e.mail: city.shelter@skynet.be Previously they published such a CD for 98 & 99.

FELKINS, LEON, See LEON, F.

FIST, STEWART, fist@ozemail.com.au , not a libertarian but a computer and CD-ROM expert! 15.3.01: "I was involved in CD-ROMs from the beginning … I've also tried to get into CD-ROM publishing myself on a couple of occasions, and have had no success. I've written a 750-page reference encyclopedia on technology (which is actually four times the size on my computer disk) so I can see how it should work - but it doesn't unless you've got a large marketing operation behind you. - I also suspect that reference is better on book pages, because you want it open and available 'at the same time as you are reading on the screen' - and because you often want it available when you are reading in another room to the computer room. That's my own experience, anyway." - Stewart Fist - writer & columnist, www.australianIT.com.au/opinion/crossorads/www.abc.net.au/http/sfist/ (some archives), www.electric-words.com (main archives), 70 Middle Harbour Road, Lindfield, NSW 2070, Australia, Phone +61 2 94167458 Fax: + 61 2 94164582 - Undoubtedly, for many purposes, paper texts are preferable - IF ONE CAN GET THEM. But I have looked for many freedom texts in vain, for DECADES and in numerous libraries and bookshops. And having also a laptop would help, so would printing out some of the texts. - If anyone needs a consultant - and can afford to pay him …. I wish he would at least offer the fully version of his technology encyclopedia on a CD-ROM, in on-demand publishing only, at a reasonable price. If he is too busy, somebody might do this job for him. Among other things, he is also spreading enlightenment on radiation hazards.

FLANAGAN, GREG, Director, Libertocracy Association, net@libertocracy.com & journal@libertocracy.com 28.12.00: "That's a very ambitious project. I know that I would like to own a libertarian encyclopaedia of writings. Laissez Faire Books http://laissezfairebooks.com/index.cfm?aid=LIB is the largest and most successful dealer in freedom literature and may be willing to help produce books on CDs or contact publishers and authors who will do it themselves." www.libertocracy.com Recently he offered an excellent definition of his framework for liberty:

- "Libertocracy is a polycentric free enterprise government and socio-economic system whereby sovereign individuals join together by mutual consent in a civilization that respects and defends the freedom, dignity and rights of all people equally. - In Libercratic society people live by the rule of sovereign individual freedom, where a person is free to do anything that one chooses as long as it's not imposed on others and doesn't infringe upon the equal right of other individuals to the same freedom. - Libertocracy includes all other forms of government (or non-government anarchy) that respects individual freedom in an environment where people must govern themselves through consensual contracts." Since his ideas closely resemble those of panarchism, I downloaded ca. 6 MBs from his site, from the first 2 levels, without going into the details of the 3rd level, and include them in my latest ON PANARCHY editions on microfiche. - "I would be glad to help. I can put my collection of writings together. I noticed that you didn't want people sending you the texts. How can I best contribute my writings to the collection?" ... "There is also a treasure-trove of libertarian-anarchist writings at www.freenation.org . I can list several of the best writings on consensual government I have read if you want. I concentrate on creating a system that seeks to beat the state at providing services and solving social problems that are often cited as excuses for statist policies, all within a consensual free enterprise organization 'consensual government' - Libertocracy." Still more will be added to his already extensive website. - His is a very detailed libertarian utopia, that I have still to study. At first I thought that I discovered a flaw in his utopia, when he used the term "central banking". But, as he pointed out to me, it is only to be a competitive one and one of a volunteer community. He wrote: "To build such a library would require the cooperation of many publishers and authors. I would like to help in some way. I need to know how I can best help. I think that contacting and putting together a team of people to build a libertarian encyclopaedia has great potential. I also look forward to a day when we will have libertarian textbooks that can be used to teach a libertarian curriculum in the school or for home schooling." (Bettina Bien Greaves offers two such volumes, published by FEE and reproduced by LMP in PEACE PLANS microfiche.)

- "A libertarian encyclopaedia is a great step in that direction and would be an excellent educational resource." - He wants to reserve copyrights for his writings reproduced on CD-ROMs and on LMP microfiche. His website did partly help to fill some of my latest ON PANARCHY microfiche, of which there are now 24, towards a rather complete encyclopaedia on the subject.

FLEMING, KURT, has ca. 36 MBs to offer on Stirner. kfleming@t-online.de www.p-beier.de/Stirner/ He runs one of the largest, if not the largest archive on Stirner and his kind of individualism. Would it not be wonderful to be able to get all this, cheap and easily, on a CD-ROM?

FOLDVARY, FRED, ffoldvary@yahoo.com Author of "The Soul of Liberty", free market economist, Georgist, editor & publisher, 17.7.02: "Please put me on that list." For some of his titles see the LMP literature list for PEACE PLANS issues. Recent local secessionist article: www.free-market.net/rd716312612.html

FRENCH REVOLUTION, a multimedia disk, www.chnm.gmu.edu contains 12 topical essays, 250 images, 350 text documents, 13 songs, 13 maps etc. Called: Liberty, Equality, Fraternity, Exploring the French Revolution. produced by the Center for History and New Media, George Mason University and American Social History Project, City University of N.Y.

FREETHOUGHT BOOKS, two titles from ADDALLL, www.addall.com:Facts of Freethought ISBN: 1929708033 CD-ROM & E-book - List Price: $30.00 & Freethought & the Bible ISBN: 1929708041 - CD-ROM & E-book - List Price: $30.00. This bookshop's other 48 titles on my downloaded pages are all only in print on paper, from $ 15-130.

FUNDACIO D'ESTUDIS LIBERTARIS FEDERICA MONTSENY, CD-ROM Interactivo: "Carteles anarquistas de la Guerra Civil espanola 1936-1939", Barcelona, 2001. Casi un centenar de carteles amenizado con canciones libertarias. Precio: 1.500 pts. - I presume it offers posters and songs of the Spanish Civil War in multimedia format. - From extensive anarchist literature catalog by: Fundacion de Estudios Libertario Anselmo Lorenzo: fal@cnt.eswww.cnt.es/fal , publisher of BICEL, of which I fiched some samples.

GAMBONE, LARRY, Red Lion Press, anarchist publisher: - "... very busy lately. Thanks for the libertarian website and for the info on CD-ROM. Definitely will think about the latter, though I am new to this computer business and have a lot to learn. Have kept your message to reread and think about (and learn from)..."

22.6.02: Hello John, Thank you for the list and information. Actually you wrote me at a time that I am just about begin to put together a collection of articles for CD. What it will be is something like "The New Anarchism" which will include all the beyond left and right material, non-violence, the rejection of communism, the new mutualism, etc. I have two projects to finish first; an introductory pamphlet on mutualism and a pamphlet on Wilhelm Reich sent to me by an English anarchist. Pamphlet sales are going well, 4300 so far, at least 6 of them are also on the Web. Any Time Now has about 100 subscribers and another 40 get the e-mail edition…" redlionpress@hotmail.com

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/LarryGambone/redlionpublications.htm

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/LarryGambone/homepage.htm

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/LarryGambone/larrygambonearchive.htm

GEORGE, HENRY, WORKS, See: LINCOLN INSTITUTE.

GIBSON, HEATH, B.Com, B.Ec.(Hons), ddhrg@hunterlink.net.au - a young economist and computer expert, now living in Sydney, has provided much needed information and constructive criticism. He is doing his PhD in Internet Economics. "I am not opposed to the idea, but rather making sure that all angles are covered." He confirmed that virus-checked CD-ROMs, once burned into duplicates, are safe from further virus attacks there, unless they are put on a re-writable disk and this is placed into a burner. He advised against sending attachments on first contact and in Word and suggests rather that they be put on the Web, with only their URL mentioned. John Humphreys, ALS, has started to realize that with his LIBERTARIAN LIBRARY project. See below. "Now even a largish book, if in plain text (or even rtf) and zipped, isn't going to take that long to download. And since many internet plans are flat rate, the marginal cost of dial-up time is simply the cost of a local call." - Probably it would be best if all pro and con letters could be placed on a forum or into a chat session than going through the bottleneck of my e-mail address. He strengthened my conviction that the first cooperatively produced libertarian CD-ROMs should concentrate on not or no longer copyrighted material with sufficient references to what copyrighted materials are in print, on tapes, on microfiche or on the Web.

Who has tried not only to download a single book from the Internet but 650 Mbs of libertarian texts, enough to fill one CD-ROM, unzipped and how much time and effort did this cost him, and how much in additional connection fees, if his is not already on a flat rate and unlimited usage plan? - Now working with Telstra Big Band, Broadband ADSL, and also still at his PhD, recommends for archiving the libertarian "blog" site on which he collaborates with Jason Soon and Andrew Norton: http://catallaxyfiles.blogspot.com His own website is: http://www2.hunterlink.net.au/~ddhrg/randyte.html He wishes me best luck with the project - but does not put it on a popular libertarian website, either, perhaps because he thinks that is as easy for me as it would be for him.- J.Z.

GILSON DE LEMOS, MICHAEL, International Libertarian Organization, ILO, showed some interest: New e-mail address: mg4u@oasis.net Updated monthly: LIO: The Libertarian International www.libertarian.uni.cc Read MG's articles at www.gilson.uni.cc MG's Contrarian Articles: http://www.gilson.uni.cc - According to today's e-mail, he just wants to be informed when the CD's are ready! - Neither libertarian CD-ROMs nor liberty in general will be handed to us on a platter, without any effort on our side. - J.Z., 19.6.02. - According to my view of libertarian international cooperation, we should help to organize, as much as we can, a world-wide cooperation on such potentially very powerful projects. Finally a libertarian world library and encyclopaedia and complete and permanent libertarian publishing! - J.Z., 27.6.02.

GLOBAL AFFAIRS PUBLISHING COMPANY: Global Governance in the 21^st Century. A New Company Dedicated to Preserving America's Freedom, Sovereignty, and Independence. Global Affairs offers a New CD-Rom for the Serious Scholar of International Affairs, Economics, Finance, and Trade. Submitted by: Michael L. Chadwick = mailto:globalllpc@cyberhighway.net From: Links page of www.self-gov.org 1997. (Self-gov.org does not necessarily endorse all those sites.)

GLOBAL IDEAS BANK, Institute for Social Inventions, www.globalideasbank.org/ At least it reproduced one of my appeals for the libertarian CD-ROM project. But, obviously, it is not yet an efficient global market for ideas, for I have got no response upon that publicity. 6 had viewed the scheme there. Its latest annual selection book seems to contain mostly only trivial ideas, so I am not tempted to order it. Libertarians have so far insufficiently utilized this ideas market.

GRAYSON, ROBERT & ROEDER, JACKIE, showed some interest: rg3758@airmail.net (This address is no longer valid and I know no website for them, either. - J.Z., 21.6.02.) A website search, using their names, might reveal a new contact option. But one person can't do everything. - J.Z., 27.6.02.

GRECO, THOMAS H., Jr., circ2@mindspring.com My new book, "Money: Understanding and Creating Alternatives to Legal Tender," published by Chelsea Green, is now available. For details, see www.chelseagreen.com/Livelihood/Money.htm - This is is third monetary freedom book! - Here's the link to the excerpted, e-book version (in PDF format): www.chelseagreen.com/Livelihood/MoneyEBook.htm 20.7.02: "I certainly am supportive of your idea to compile freedom literature on CD-ROM. I have, however, other priorities. It is one thing to collect material and quite another to process and utilize it. I am more interested in the latter. How about joining me in a "Monetary Enlightenment Project." - Gladly, if all its required information is compiled e.g. on microfiche, floppy disks, CDs and online, with as much practical advice & experience as possible! Actually, I have been at it since 1952 and my friend Ulrich von Beckerath, 1882 - 1969, promoted it from 1908 to his death,

GRYFFE, LA OR GRIFFE, LA, French anarchist periodical. It intended to publish anarchist texts on CD-ROMs. I could not find out details, since its e-mail address: gryffe@multimedia.com is defunct. But some people should know how far they got with their CD-ROM project & who is still working on it, if anybody. LA GRIFFE 8 & 9: La Griffe, CCP 10 574 51 B Lyon, France. - J.Z., 31.May 01.

GUENIN, JACQUES DE, President of the Cercle Frederic Bastiat j.de.guenin@wanadoo.fr one of main the organizers of Bastiat ISIL meeting in 1901. When he heard about my complaint that no one of his circle - or anyone else - showed any interest so far, in my collected works edition of Bastiat, on 6 LMP microfiche, for a mere $ 6, he replied: "What have we done wrong to you? If someone in the Cercle Frederic Bastiat told you that we are not interested in microfiche, this is because hardly any private person has a microfiche reader. But my circle would certainly be much interested by a CD-Rom or floppy disk containing the work of Bastiat in digitalized form. ..." - I replied, among other things: "My informant from your circle has certainly not wronged me at all by expressing an opinion or lack of interest in my offers. He had and has a right to do so. He and his cause suffers more from the lack of interest in this option than I do. - The very term fiche, or leaf, is, I believe, of French origin. French people were among the first to invent microfilm and to make use of it, e.g. by attaching them to carrier pidgeons at the siege of Paris by the Prussian army. And, as far as I know, French literature collections on microfilm are among the largest and most comprehensive in the world. They cover whole centuries, e.g. of drama and poetry. The one on the French Revolution is also extremely large and the Gallica Project of the Bibliotheque Nationale, Paris, mentioned by Dr. David Hart, ... may be that project which I vaguely heard or read about, many years ago, to make all of French literature accessible at least on microfilm. I asked about it e.g. at Alliance Francaise offices in several cities and encountered only complete ignorance on this project. - Some of the best reading machines are produce in France, ... A Munich firm, Saur AG, which filmed much of the German literature up to 1950, intends to do the same for English, French, Italian and Spanish literature.... French intellectuals constituted once the forefront of the Age of Enlightenment, especially the contributors of the famous Encyclopaedia, now also available on microfilm, I believe. ... As for the scarcity of microfilm reading machines in private homes of freedom lovers: At least used microfiche machines have often been offered for as little as A $ 50, i.e., for the price of many a newly printed single book. Spencer Heath McCallum managed to get workable trading machines two times, at auctions, for US $ 1 each. With such a cheap machine they could get access to thousands of freedom titles..." But, could they be bothered? My full reply will be microfilmed or I could dig it up from my e-mails on CD, of 10 Dec. 00. - Anyhow, here is another circle just waiting to be provided with freedom information on floppies or CDs, but not yet trying to provide it itself. - J.Z., 18.6.02. - Gian Piero de Bellis has recently "discovered" Bastiat for himself and will do some Italian translations and just might do more for Bastiat's work, on CD-ROM, than this French Bastiat circle has done so far.

GULATI, ANIL (NEIL), anil.gulati.@bigpond.com , anilg@users.sourceforge.net ,Leichhardt, Sydney, (0414) 85 87 82, (02) 95183034 - He is not a libertarian but likes the idea of making ALL knowledge easily accessible and thus useful - i.e., what libertarians try to achieve only for their knowledge. - 3.8.01: "… Given the accessibility of CD-ROM storage it seems like an ideal solution, and as you point out, the number of texts that can fit onto one CD is enormous. I tend to deal in plain text, even avoiding HTML as well as the more bulky and restrictive proprietary formats such as WORD, RTF and PDF. … What a great project, deserving of all-government support, is a programme to put all uncopyrighted texts onto CD-ROM for free circulation and consumption by the whole world! … And how easily achievable that vision is given even a modicum of resources. …. it is very much the issue that 'book lovers' need to be 'sufficiently mobilized for cooperative self-publishing'. …. I do have a couple of leaflets that have been written which I believe may be of interest, although they are very short." - He also made a number of practical suggestions and asked me about the distinction between libertarians and anarchists.

GUTCHER, MARY LOU, ISIL conference organizer, MLGutscher@free-market.net

"I am quite interested in these projects. I'd like to participate in some way, but am not sure just how at the moment." - She did already much by passing information on and supplying me with some e-mail addresses.

Collecting hints towards Mbs available for this project and addresses of people interested in it, and passing them on be listed, for the time being only here, is all that is presently required. Later on, anybody is at liberty to cooperate with others on this list, and other contacts, as much or as little as he or she likes, within the sphere of their special libertarian interests. - J.Z.

HALLIDAY, ROY, royhalliday@mindspring.com Libertarian author and essayist, associated with the FREE NATION FOUNDATION FNF, http://royhalliday.home.mindspring.com/ See PEACE PLANS 1687 & 1688: "I am interested, but technophobic. I am one of those people who wishes someone else would do it. I may get into it if I can overcome my ignorance." ... "I still regard the state as a criminal organization that should be abolished ..." ... "You might enjoy an article that I recently added to my website "Operation Atlantis and the Radical Libertarian Alliance: Observations of a Fly on the Wall" at http://royhalliday.home.mindspring.com/rla.htm#rla 4 June 2001" - Dear Roy, ... I just finished reading most of your chapters and articles and do agree with you on many but not all points, marked many passages, made some hand-written comments in the margins and indicated excellent formulations for later extraction for my SLOGANS FOR LIBERTY compilation. ... Your book is one of the few that sees the significance of collective responsibility "thinking" and does attack it. We do also agree on the associated threat with nuclear and B & C "weapons" but not on all the steps required to overcome these threats. I was very glad to find segments in your book in which you express yourself like a "panarchist", "polyarchist", "liberocracy" advocate etc., to the same extent that such thinking can be found e.g. in Gian Piero de Bellis' essay, in Greg Flanagan's book, Fichte's 1793 work, in Spencer's Social Statics, in at least one chapter by David Boaz, in his book Libertarianism, in at least one article by Karl Hess and in John Gall's "Systemantics", etc. The last one speaks among other things of "Free choice of Territory (Distributional Freedom)", under which a citizen of any country is free to live in any part of the world he chooses, and of: "Free Choice" of Government (Principle of Hegemonic Indeterminacy)." "Numerous other terms have been used for the same thing. I have still not got around to put together all those I found so far. You will probably find de Puydt's dialogue on Panarchy delightful. It is attached to my main website.... Anyhow, I welcome you among the still all too sparse ranks of the "panarchists", or however you would like to call them. The present "salt of the Earth", to whom an old saying of Laotse does also apply: "To be appreciated only by a few belongs to my value." ...

As for the CD-ROM option: You say you are interested. That is good enough for me to get you on my list. You say that you are technophobic. 30 years at IBM and your websites seem to contradict this statement. In a way I am technophobic, too, always postponing the learning labors involved with a new program, or hardware, for months, sometimes years, always with the excuse that I have too much keyboarding, photocopying, stamping, pasting, reading, etc., etc., other labours on hand for my microfiche publishing. I know probably less than you do about the production of a CD-ROM containing many libertarian texts, having so far used only the Direct-CD program of ADAPTEC, in which the CD-ROM is used like a powerful floppy disk or extra hard drive disk, not its EASY CD-ROM CREATOR.

But these technical skills are NOT required to favour the use of CD-ROMs for libertarian texts. Anyhow, there are now several easy programs around for this purpose and a little bit of study and experimentation can lead one to master them sufficiently if not perfectly. Division of labour applies here, too. Many might contribute Mbs and only a few might assemble them optimally on a few CD-ROMs. Ultimately, the collectors, contributors, editors, scanners, keyboarders and readers should outnumber the editors and publishers, here, too, but the division between these two "classes" will not be a severe as it is for conventional media. Neither can I claim to be an entrepreneur, i.e., one bringing all the required knowledge and skills productively together, nor do I want to be, for this project.

Instead, I just try to gather enough addresses of interested people so that people on this list will, finally find, among those listed, enough people of their own kind and with the Mbs required to fill THEMSELVES one or even several libertarian CD-ROMs. I would gladly pass on even this list-keeping to someone able and willing to conduct it more efficiently than I did so far, e.g., by placing it on a much frequented website, with a program for adding more entries by those who like the project and want some part in it, however small this may be. I would love to get thousands listed merely as potential readers, for that could stimulate the production of libertarian CD-ROMs as well.

The whole process could run "anarchistically", based merely upon sufficient publicity for this option. ...." - J.Z., 5.6.01.

HANNAH, JAMAL, March 12, 2001, jah@www.org (No longer valid! Who knows his new one?) - Subject: Re: 100301 jah A People's Libertarian Index re CD-ROM project. "Hi.. you can include my site on your CD-ROM if you want, but keep in mind that I haven't updated some of the pages in a few years and I don't know when I'll be able to get around to it. As for syndicalism (libertarian unionism), the whole point of it is that it is NOT coercive.. it is as libertarian as you can get. Even a pure individualist can see that it is in their best interests to not get screwed over by bosses, landlords, or other authoritarians. If you don't believe people have a right to freely organize unions or you will attack my material on your CD-ROM in some snide way, then I would prefer you did not include it on the CD-ROM. - J.H."

I replied: Dear Jamal, thanks for your O.K. to include your present site and future updates You make No. 43 on my list of people who showed some interest in this subject. I wish there were many more, especially people also prepared to keyboard or scan in additional texts for CD-ROM and online reproduction. But then I have not done much keyboarding and scanning in of texts myself. Only when enough of the book fans can be mobilized can enough digitizing be achieved.

Ideally, all e.g. syndicalist texts and discussions should be placed on CD-ROMs by syndicalists themselves. I certainly cannot do all their publishing for them, not even with microfiche or CD-ROMs. They are, essentially, self-help media. If you would have had my experience with COMPULSORY unionism, then you, too, would have developed a bias against IT as well.

I'm not opposed to any voluntary unionism or syndicalism - but am opposed to those syndicalists who would want to expropriate me and others and rule me and them without our consent. All others are not perceived as a threat to me.

There are numerous alternative proposals to syndicalism to achieve liberation and self-management at the workplace. All deserve free discussion and free experimentation among those who are interested in them. Should your voluntary syndicalism or any other voluntary alternative spread most widely in free competition, then you or they would have my congratulations.

I try to avoid snide attacks but do not always succeed, at least not in the eyes of others. But, as a panarchist, I do always stress that my primary aim is maximum tolerance for all tolerant actions, however much I may disapprove of them in their contents. As long as people are tolerant they can be tolerated.

It is more important to achieve freedom of action for all than to limit freedom of expression and information in any way, no matter how mere words can sometimes be perceived as hurts. "Sticks and stones can hurt my bones, ...".

I have downloaded and printed out so many pages that I cannot presently and easily find your print-out and its URL, which I would like to include in my preliminary list of people who are somewhat interested in the project, not only your e-mail address. I would also include any version of entry that you would prefer and submit. PIOT, John Zube. - For his extensive webpages see: http://flag.blackened.net/liberty/

HART, DAVID, he is already a libertarian pioneer for CD-ROM publishing! I would say that he is the foremost libertarian CD-ROM activist! - During the last few months, he wrote on 30 Nov. 00, he has 4 published: 1: Radical Rarities of the Classical Liberal Tradition. - 2: 19th C French Dictionaries of Political Economy. 3: The French Radical Liberal Tradition. 4: Liberty and Identity in Shakespeare, Marlow and Marx (for a Liberty Fund conference in Oct. 00. - He favours faster downloading options & experiments with online teaching. "Until we have high speed domestic connections (which will come eventually) we will have to live in a hybrid world of printed text, fiche, CD-ROMs and online stuff. I don't mind this hybridity - let a thousand flowers bloom!"

He has a webpage devoted to his "Online Library of Classical Liberalism" with links to the table of contents of the above CDs. - When I first started with LMP he suggested a libertarian bibliography as the most important job to be put on microfilm. Over the years he has himself published extensive bibliographies on classical liberalism and peace. His dissertation was on Gustave de Molinari and the Anti-Etatiste Liberal Tradition, 1979, 164pp, with bibliography, reproduced in PP 135-136. See my website for some more of his writings. His e-mail letter made my day! If I could blow the trumpet, the walls of Jericho might come down again. - (They were previously undermined and propped up. The trumpets just gave the signal to pull the props away. Sufficient enlightenment can undermine or break all walls, and suddenly, like the Berlin Wall, they do come down.)

Dr. David Hart, historian and writer on classical liberalism and peace, has over 2 Giga bytes of other material on his hard disk, i.e., enough for at least 3 other libertarian CD-ROMS! He pointed out not only Project Gutenberg but also the "Gallica Project of the Bibliotheque Nationale, Paris" & has done some scanning-in of books, such as Hodgskin's Natural and Artificial Right of Property Contrasted, 1832 & consulted for Liberty Fund on creating a digital library of liberty texts, saying that they have made a small start & hopes that they will put some of their millions into a much larger effort. So, unnoticed by me, things have already been moving in the right direction. - Will enough jump on the band wagon to finish the job fast? I do not know yet how much he charges for the above 4 CD-ROMs. - J.Z., 30.11.00.

SOME GOOD NEWS: "Dear Friends and Colleagues, I am leaving the Department of History at the University of Adelaide in order to take up a new position in July 2001 as a Senior Fellow at the Liberty Fund in Indianapolis, Indiana. I will be responsible for creating a new "Online Library of Liberty". We will be putting online many classic texts in political thought, economic theory, and history from the 17th, 18th and 19th centuries. We will also be creating an online version of the "Great Books Program". The aim is to make these texts useful to scholars and students by means of introductory, thematic and biographical essays which will be linked to the relevant texts. Online research will be aided by the provision of facsimiles of first editions of the texts and the opportunity to do key word searches on HTML versions of the texts. You can expect to see the fruits of my labour online at www.libertyfund.org in the near future.- Regards David - Dr. David M. Hart, Senior Fellow, The Liberty Fund, Inc., 8335 Allison Pointe Trail, #300, Indianapolis, IN 46250-1684 - Phone: (317) 842-0880, Fax: (317) 579-6060

Email: dhart@libertyfund.org

Since David Hart has already reproduced some libertarian writings on CD-ROMs, this new job MIGHT lead to more of them. He is aware of the advantages of this medium to supplement current online speeds and options, and Liberty Fund has long tried to offer libertarian writings very cheaply, although mostly only in print. But, do not wait for Liberty Fund alone to deal with all freedom writings in a scholarly way. You yourself can use CD-ROMs, together with like-minded people, almost as easily as you could use floppy disks or microfiche for them, but more efficiently and cheaply.

According to a later letter, of 16 April 02, he is currently engaged in putting 200 classical liberal books online and is lucky enough that others are paid to do the scanning and proof- reading chore for him:

Dear John, Good to hear from you and thanks for the file. I'll have a look at it. I am working on two online projects at the moment. I am managing our website "Library of Economics and Liberty" or Econlib at http://www.econlib.org/ I have been trying to give it more of a French flavour with some books by Molinari and Destutt de Tracy. We have long list of titles we plan to put up over the next year or so. Our current schedule is 1 book every three weeks.

The other project is the Online Library of Liberty. We have about 200 titles from the classical liberal and great books tradition selected to go online as part of the first stage of the project. We are sending the books (all pre-1923 - so out of copyright in the US) to a professional scanner at the rate of 4-5 per week. We will then send the PDF scans to another company for rekeying and coding into XML. This will give us the opportunity to create HTML versions of the books to go on our website and the flexibility to convert the file into any other electronic format which may appear in the future (we hope!). I don't know when we will go "live" on the WWW - maybe later in he year when we have a critical mass of titles. - Regards David

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Dr. David M. Hart, Director, Online Library of Liberty Project, Liberty Fund Inc., 8335 Allison Pointe Trail #300

Indianapolis, IN 46250-1684, Direct Tel. (317) 579-6048 ext. 6054, Tel. (317) 842-0880, Fax (317) 577-9067

Email: dhart@libertyfund.org Websites: http://www.libertyfund.org and http://www.econlib.org/

He supplied still more details & I replied at some length. But here is not the space to reproduce all of this correspondence. Let me just remark that, in my opinion, he still underestimates the capacity of CD-ROMs and over-estimates the online options. But then the online options have so far certainly been more popular, although not always easier and cheaper - when it comes to many long texts. And his vision of a comprehensive libertarian library, economically supplying wanted texts from it an CD-ROMs, automatically compiled, duplicated and mailed for this purpose, was and is quite realistic. Any road or medium towards liberty should be fully utilized. - J.Z., 27.6.02.

HELSINKI FOUNDATION FOR HUMAN RIGHTS, ???????????? ???? ?? ?????? ???????? = Helsinki Foundation for Humas Rights : ??????? ????????????? ?????????? [?????????? ????]. - ???????, 2001. -CD-ROM. - Testas rus,. angl. - UDK 341.231.14 + 342.7. - ?ifras: CD 60. Source of info: www.lta.lt

HISTORY MATTERS, www.historymatters.gmu.eduThe History Matters Store provides direct links to purchase the books, videos, CD ROMs, and other curriculum materials authored by the American Social History Project (ASHP), the Center for History and New Media (CHNM), and the scholars and teachers included in our Talking History and Secrets of Great History Teachers sections. Books and Media Materials by the American Social History Project and/or the Center for History nd New Media:

Who Built America: Working People and the Nation's Economy, Politics, Culture, and Society, Vol. 1, 2nd ed. (book)

Who Built America: Working People and the Nation's Economy, Politics, Culture, and Society, Vol. 2, 2nd ed. (book)
Who Built America? From the Centenniel Celebration of 1876 to the Great War of 1914 (CD ROM)
Who Built America? From the Great War of 1914 to the Dawn of the Atomic Age in 1946 (CD ROM) (Orders for multiple copies only via Worth Publishers Customer Service: 1-888-330-8477; ISBN 1-57259-544-2)
Liberty, Equality, Fraternity: Exploring the French Revolution (book and CD ROM)
Liberty, Equality, Fraternity: Exploring the French Revolution (CD ROM)

HUELSMANN, GUIDO, See MISES INSTITUTE.

HUMANITY DEVELOPMENT LIBRARY 2.0, Sep. 1998, contains the equivalent of 160,000 pages or 340 kg/ US$ 20,000 of useful books/reports and newsletters on this single CD-ROM of 25 grammes. The publications are those of over 100 partners organizations and cover 23 major subjects; with each 20 to 50 books. There are about 30,000 linked images in Gif, PNG and jpg format. Prices vary from $ 4 (quantity orders) to 30 according to your country. The more expensive ones include the cost of donating a free one to an underdeveloped country. To be delivered mainly to development libraries in underdeveloped countries. humanity@humaninfo.orginfo@humaninfor.orgfeedback@humaninfo.org A copyleft system is used. Server software is made available free or at low cost. This information is also available free online at http://media.payson.tulane.edu:8083/ and soon on many servers in many countries and on very cheap CD-ROMs for redistribution in developing countries. Formerly known as "Humanity CD-ROM Project". Final aim is to include ca. 3,000 essential books at the lowest cost possible. The equivalent knowledge of 16 full university degrees available at fingertips. They aim to achieve for each developing country ca. 5,000 PC's with CD-ROM drives in ca. 1,000 places as education centres and local servers that could offer more material from other CD-ROMs. They seek further information input and distributors and financial contributions. www.humaninfo.org/ Related sites: www.worldinfo.org/www.gtz.de/www.payson.tulane.edu/www.globalprojects.org/ (The equivalent libertarian disk has still to be provided, including all the libertarian development ideas.)

HUMPHREYS, JOHN, ALS, AUSTRALIAN LIBERTARIAN SOCIETY, has a slightly different or more embracing plan which I fully agree with. He wants to offer a "libertarian library", as one of the outputs of ALS, "a resource that allows access to the most complete range of libertarian works. This includes links to web-based articles, information on how to buy libertarian works and the production and promotion of cheap alternatives - such as CD-ROMs, disk and microfiche etc. If this site doesn't provide any article on libertarianism, then it should indicate how and where you can get it ... a complete libertarian library!"- It is to build upon much previous work. The early stages are to be loaded in the new year and then constant upgrades will go on after that. "What? Any libertarian works. This includes objectivist and anarchist and free market and classical liberal works - anything that supports individual liberty and freedom." For the beginnings of this Libertarian Library see its draft: www.geocities.com/libertarian_library/ His e-mail: libertarian_aust@yahoo.com & als@liberty.every1.net ALS website: www.geocities.com/libertarian_society - Alas, he has not yet got around to develop this new website. Other commitments have kept him so far from further work on his libertarian library project.

It does contain though, some of my earlier and all too long compilations of notes on the project. - I can almost wish that he will not succeed with his new liberal-democratic party and use his talents and energy instead for further educational efforts. Much by him has been microfiched in my series. - He is still only in his early twenties. - J.Z., 18.2.02.

HUTCHINGS, JAMES, Anarchist News Service. - Alas, so far I have received only one anarchist text floppy disk, from James Hutchings, containing many left anarchist texts, unzipped, but amounting only to a bit over 1 Mb. Address: James c/o P.O. Box 503, Newtown, NSW 2042, Australia. Sent free of charge in Australia. For overseas orders include something for postage. james_hutchings@ato.gov.au But the potential of the humble floppy, for zipped texts, seems to be over 6 Mbs and 1,000 pages! A first step towards libertarian CD-ROM publishing? It appears that an 800 Mbs CD-ROM, also costing only ca. A $ 1 for the blank, could contain, WINzipped, 4 x 800 Mbs = 3.2 Gbs of anarchist and or libertarian texts, or about 3,200 times as much as he offers with this anarchist floppy disk, not quite filled. Apparently, he had difficulties and it took him some time to gather as much or as little in digitized left anarchist texts from Australian anarchists for his first anarchist floppy disk. He advertised the attempt for a while in ANARCHIST AGE WEEKLY REVIEW, in which he is a columnist. - J.Z., 18.6.02.

ID ARCHIV im IISG, First CD-ROM, put out in 1998, reproduced some of its listings. I downloaded some its lists from its website and reproduced them in PEACE PLANS 1722, first entry. This list, on CD, costs DM 30.00 (i.e., ca. Euro 15) and is essentially only a literature for sale list. Will anarchists be among the last to put their texts on CD-ROMs? May be this archive has done so already? - J.Z., 18.6.02.

INTERNATIONAL HUMANITARIAN LAW = Droit international humanitaire [Kompaktinis diskas]. - Geneva : ICRC Publications, 1996. - 1 CD-ROM : knygel? [14 p.]. - ISBN 2-88145-083-0. - UDK 341(4) + 614.855(4). - Šifras: CD71. Source of info: www.lta.lt

INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTE OF SOCIAL HISTORY, info@iisg.nl Quite independently of this CD-ROM project, the IISH, in collaboration with 3 other institutes, has produced Bakunin's collected works on a CD-ROM, featuring all his known texts as images and as text files, whenever possible both in the originals and transcripts and, whenever applicable, a French translation. It was done from its own extensive archives & the collections of 40 other archival institutions, ISBN 90 6984 303 X Price: NLG 995,- Information and orders: Edita-KNAW, P.O. Box 19121, 1000 GC Amsterdam, The Netherlands edita@bureau.knaw.nl - www.knaw.nl/bakunin/ - A bit expensive, I believe, but you can't get this information any cheaper otherwise and elsewhere. - Perhaps some anarchists will produce cheaper editions on a CD-ROM, without the archival originals but e.g. with numerous reviews and criticism? J.Z.

IROQUOIS STORY ON CD-ROM: "A look at a list of contributors to The Great Peace... The Gathering of Good Minds, a new CD-ROM and resource guide prepared by Working World, of Brantford, Ontario…" Bruce E. Johansen, bruce_johansen@unomaha.edu in his review, www.ratical.org It contains 2,600 screens of photographs, animation, and text. Johansen is author of: Debating Democracy: The Iroquois Legacy of Freedom.

JOHNSON, KEITH, keith_johnson_98@yahoo.com wrote on 18.12.00: "I think your CD-ROM Project is marvellous & will assist where I can by supplying you with information as it comes to hand. . I generally support Libertarianism, Free Market, Free Enterprise, Pauline Hanson, etc. but I cannot call myself an activist." - He has been a long-time supporter of the libertarian PROGRESS PARTY in Australia. His interests extend to physics, mathematics, the history of discoveries etc.

JONGEN, HUBERT, Libertarian International, info@libertarian.to hubertjongen@compuserve.com EUROLETTER, per e-mail. - 25/6/02: He is now considering opening a chapter on the CD-ROM project on their website and to create the facility for others to send their contributions and to announce this in their EUROLETTER and to provide progress reports. All is still in flux but this is the best news yet, in this respect, from a large libertarian organization. He even sounds impatient to go ahead! I sure won't hold him back but wrote that the last version of this list will be ready only in a few days.

KANT, IMMANUEL: Hauptwerke. CD-ROM für Win und Mac. - Hauptwerke 1781-1804; Vorkritische Schriften 1747-1777; Kleine Schriften 1784-1800; Rezensionen 1771-1786. [Text folgt der Akademie-Ausgabe "with annotated corrections".] Hrsg. vom Philosophy Documentation Center. Bowling Green 2000. & Kant, Immanuel: Philosophische Briefe und Vorlesungsnachschriften. CD-ROM für Win und Mac. - Auswahl der (philosophischen) Korrespondenz 1765-1798; Kants Vorlesung über Religionsphilosophie [K. H. L. Pölitz, 1817, ²1830]; Über Metaphysik [Pölitz, 1821]. Hrsg. vom Philosophy Documentation Center. Bowling Green 2000.

Several studies on Kant will be published on CD-ROM according to Bibliographischer Informationsdienst Nr. 27 Oktober 2001. This issue brings 430 references to Kant. But then already during his lifetime there were ca. 5,000 texts on his philosophy - and, according to some, most of them misunderstood him!

KLEIN, DANIEL, dklein@scu.edu 19.12.00: ". I am not scanning such texts. But I would be interested in purchasing such a product." - Upon a few thousand indications of interest in the product it might be offered much sooner. - Who is prepared to put this list on the Internet, with some explanations, for which I offer all my texts, as raw material, free of charge, and do so with a software program that would allow interested people to add their names, address, Mb offers, their kind and the degree to which they are prepared to collaborate in this project. Then this list might finally grow fast enough to come to the actual collection and production stages. See under DAGNY & JONGEN, HUBERT.

KNOBLAUCH, JOCHEN, would like to see a CD-ROM filled with writings by and on Stirner. He is one of the few who produce ESPERO, a German individualist anarchist periodical, in the Stirner, Tucker & J.H. Mackay tradition. Knobi@t-online.de He tried once before to publish an anarchist CD-ROM but did not get enough texts to fill it. PLEASE, do supply him with such digitized texts. He is collaborating with UWE TIMM.

KOMAN, VICTOR, the libertarian science fiction writer. He was previously involved with SOFTSERV SF publishing on floppy disks and may now be involved with J. Neil Schulman' Pulpless.com publishing online, which makes some new libertarian SF available online for a very moderate charge. I believe that once the CD-ROM project gets going, he would become involved in it as well. 12 years ago I had sent him or Schulman the address of a New Yorker anarchist, whom I had met in an Los Angeles bookshop. I lost his address. This guy intended to put 500 anarchist books onto one CD-ROM. Probably he encountered as little interest as I did more recently. But sufficient interest in this option might revive the interest of this activist as well. Perhaps his address can still be got from V.K. or J.N.S.? - J.Z., 18.6.02. Vkoman@aol.com

KOSANKE, JOHN, johnfkosanke@yahoo.com 5 April 01: "… You may also consider running libertarian publications once published through a grammar checker to reduce their grammar to an easily translatable and widely readable format such as Basic English. - I am in the process of updating my 1991 booklet, "anarcho-capitalism: principles of civilization" as an e-book. Perhaps some sort of publicity exchange can be worked out.. My anarcho-capitalist freenation project, "Las Portadas" and its centerpiece, the "Civil Order Pact", are waiting for a mouthpiece as well. Perhaps your project will offer them immortality, should they fail to materialize. - In Liberty, John F Kosanke, Architect of Las Portadas

LAISSEZ FAIRE BOOKSHOP: Quite independent of this CD-ROM project LFB has produced a "virtual con 1 disk" on CD-ROM No. CU8014. It contains the Nov. 1998 convention of 19 libertarian scholars and SF authors by LIBERTY HQ & LIBERTY ROUND TABLE, offering, thanks to audio compression technology, over 21 hours of one-on-one interviews and joint conferences on a single CD-ROM. Featured are Chris Matthew Sciabarra, Sunni Maravillosa, discussing A.R. & the libertarian left. Fred Foldvary, Wendy McElroy, Peter McWilliams, Sheldon Richman, Eric Schansberg, J. Neil Schulman, Victor Koman, James Hogan, F. Paul Wilson, Smith et al. LF Price $ 19.95. In U.S. add $ 3.50, outside $ 4.50, plus $ 1.50 for each additional item. Orders: orders@laissezfairebooks.com PGP encrypted mail is accepted. LFB, Dept. H01, 998 Howard St. # 202, San Francisco, CA 94103. Toll-free: 1-800-326-0996 or: (415) 541-9780, fax (415) 541-0597. Free monthly booklist: custsvc@laissezfairebooks.com - Not a bad bargain, compared to the audio- or video-cassette alternatives. - J.Z.

See also on the LFB offer of 3-5 disks by Greg Rehmke under REHMKE.

LANDMESSER, RALF, ralf@anarch.free.de When he recently (Feb. 02) saw my letter in ANARCHY, he reminded me that many years ago he had recommended the use of CD-ROMs to me. I had forgotten about that. The things one does, sometimes, conveniently forget, especially if one is as involved with microfiche as I have been. He published for 18 years a German anarchist calendar and directory and asked for some advertisements in German on the project, which he would launch. I did provide him with translations into German of my 2 short advertisements.

LASKA, BERND, offered "some" MBs on Stirner. laska@lsr.franken.de http://www.lsr-projekt.de

LEARNING FALLACIES CD-ROM: "0-534-52013-8 By Patrick Hurley and Joseph DeMarco, this is an interactive multimedia tutorial that uses the full capabilities of the computer, including sound, text, and motion, to guide students through the key concepts of fallacies and arguments. Sequenced cartoons and illustrations provide a rich context that helps to reinforce concepts and make for a truly memorable learning experience. The Learning Fallacies and Arguments CD-ROM can be bundled with Kahane and Cavender's text at a nominal cost." - Infor from Thomson/Wadsworth www.wadsworth.com - Philosophy page.

LEON F. (FELKINS), IMHO websites, leonf@perspicuity.net wrote 29.12.00: "I wish you the best of luck on this project. It think it has merit. I have a CD writer on my computer and I have compiled special CDs for reference. For example, I have a CD on Law/legal matters which I have downloaded from the Web. It includes glossaries and bibliographies. It makes it easy to find things even when the web may be down or I don't feel like logging in. - I will consider the possibility of my stuff on a CD but right now, I am not sure. For one reason, my pages are far from finished (if they will ever be). Further, they have lots of links. - My written stuff would hardly fill a CD, ... I don't use much graphics. Texts takes little room. My essays are typically in the 20K range. Not megabytes! - Keep me informed of any developments in your project. Just remember, links will be a problem on much of the Web based stuff." I do not know why links should be a problem. If clickable URLs and e-mail addresses cannot be provided there, which I doubt, it would not be too difficult and laborious, in most cases, to simply copy them for a live contact. - J.Z.

LEXREX, webmaster@lexrex.com www.lexrex.com has already reproduced on a single US $ 85 CD-ROM the whole over 160,000 pages of the AMERICAN FREEDOM LIBRARY OF The Western Standard Publishing Co., which in print on paper costs $ 11,000! Alas, on the website the contents of this library collection is only summarized and it seems to concentrate on some classical and constitutionalist writings. No other libertarian user of CD-COMs has so far made better use of this medium, to my knowledge. It is up to us to so combine ALL libertarian freedom writings. - J.Z., 30.4.01. - I bought a copy of it. According to its package it was produced by World Book Encyclopaedia, mentioning The Western Standard Publishing Company, and is called American Reference Library. It provides the "Largest Library of Historical and Official Documents Ever Assembled on One CD-ROM". It contains over 55,000 source documents. These are mainly of interest to conservative libertarians. Other Libertarians have still to produce their equivalent to this collection. - August 02 note: This CD is now also offered at least by LAISSEZ FAIRE BOOKS & by The Radical Academy Libertarian Books.

LIBRARY OF THE FUTURE by WOLRLD LIBRARY, INC., 2809 Main St., Irvine, CA 92714, tel.: 714-756-9500. The 3^rd edition has over 3,500 titles. I have seen it priced from A $ 20 for early editions to A $ 80 and also attached, as a freebee, with other software CDs, to computer magazines. It does contain some freedom titles, e.g. by J.S. Mill & Adam Smith. Its greatest importance is the example it sets for libertarians. According to one of my references, in text a 650 Mbs CD-ROM could carry 340,000 pages.

LICHTSCHLAG, ANDRE F., editor of the German liberal to individualist anarchist periodical "EIGENTUEMLICH FREI", offered some of his writings, many already on the Internet, for reproduction, but only with revocable permission, since he tries to make his periodical a paying proposition. For that reason he has not got the time to spare to become actively involved with microfiche and CD-ROM production. I have already microfilmed some of his writings. See my main website. More of his writings are microfilmed and listed in the supplementary list for PP 1546-1768 (which has presently no host.) Contact: Lichtschlag@eifrei.de A book by him: www.der-markt.com/home/page.jsp?queryld=124 or: Lichtschlag at amazon.com. Web, for EIGENTUEMLICH FREI: www.eifrei.de E.F. & ESPERO (Uwe Timm et al) are probably the top libertarian periodicals in Germany.

LINCOLN INSTITUTE: According to Dan Sullivan, pimann@pobox.com , 10.5.01, the Lincoln Institute is putting the works of Henry George onto a CD-ROM. No further details are known at this stage. I believe that most Georgist writings and periodicals would fit onto a single CD-ROM, not only G.H.'s works. - 1.7.02: "It is completed. I believe it sells for $ 50. Disk 1 is mostly pictures and fluff. Disk 2 has all the meat. … All the books: The Land Question, Our Land and Land Policy, A Perplexed Philosopher, Progress and Poverty, Protection or Free Trade, Science of Political Economy, and Social Problems. Also the following speeches and articles: The Single Tax: What it is and why we urge it. Why the Landowner Cannot Shift the Tax on Land Values. The Land for the People. Moses, a Lecture. Ode to Liberty, and several minor pieces in "An anthology of Henry George's Thoughts", compiled by Dr. Kenneth Wenzer." The book "Critics of Henry George" - "is not included, but a few articles, some of which are useful, by various people who submitted papers to Lincoln Institute." - It was done commercially and, obviously, did not use the full text potential fo these two disks, for reproducing much of the Georgist literature.

He suggested I contact the Robert Schalkenbach Foundation for funding, unaware that a US $ 35 cents CD-ROM hardly needs "funding" and that merely the combination of labours of love is require to fill a CD-ROM with Georgist writings - and, perhaps, the writings of some other libertarian land reformers as well. Dan Sullivan was himself working towards putting Georgist writings online - until he heard about that effort of the Lincoln Institute. Don Sullivan is associated with the SCHOOL OF COOPERATIVE INDIVIDUALISM, which has published much online and wrote an essay: Are you a Real Libertarian or a Royal Libertarian. He is hosting a Georgist conference. - J.Z., 31.5.01.

LINDSAY, GREG, Exec. Dir. The Centre for Independent Studies, 38 Oxley St., St. Leonards, NSW 2065, glindsay@cis.org.au www.cis.org.au wrote on the web: ""We are putting more and more of our stuff there. However, we are considering putting out one of our books next year as a CD-ROM too." I asked him: Why not all? Apparently, they are economical even for a single book! - With the single book one misses out on the mutual advertising effect: A whole small freedom library on a single CD-ROM. - J.Z. - According to the CIS journal POLICY, vol. 17, No. 3, they published: Jennifer Buckingham, Lucy Sullivan & Helen Hughes: State of the Nation, A Century of Change, 3^rd. edition, as book, $ 29.95, on CD-ROM, $ 29.95 and offer both for $ 45. Only one such book, on one CD-ROM, instead of hundreds or thousands, on one CD-ROM, cannot sufficiently compete with the Internet offers. And why isn't it offered more cheaply on a floppy disk? A bias for Internet use is not much better than a bias for print on paper only. Are most of the well-funded libertarian think tanks so slow in adopting CD-ROMs for massive publishing because that would make them largely superfluous? I hope not! - J.Z.

LUCRE, LUX (Pen name) showed some interest but made no MB offer so far: luxlucre@home.com - Alas, this e-mail address does no longer apply! Who has his new address? - J.Z., 22.6.02.)

MANN, FREDERICK, www.buildfreedom.com - e-mail: f-prime@buildfreedom.com wrote 2.12.00: "You're welcome to publish BuildFreedom.com and BigBooster.com materials on CD-ROM. He wants generally to increase the effectiveness of what freedom activists do to promote freedom. How many MBs does that mean? He recommended several websites, which you might find in a future separate list, appended to this circular.

MARTIN, BRIAN, - 4 December 2000: brian_martin@uow.edu.au www.uow.au/arts/sts/bmartin/ "Yes, the capacity of CD-ROMs is amazing. I've mainly burned them to save my hard disc and carry it with me while travelling overseas. Over the long term I aim to put as much of my own writing on the web as possible. For old articles that means scanning printed copies, a tedious business but straightforward.

Freedom Press gave me permission to put my/their 1998 book Information Liberation on the web, as an experiment to see whether it increases or decreases sales. I've prepared it in html and pdf, the latter looking much nicer (like a book when printed out) but requiring correspondingly more effort to get the layout just right. (The actual conversion of a word-processed document to pdf is simple and quick.) The book is just about ready to launch. You can have a look at www.uow.edu.au/arts.sts/bmartin/pubs/98IL/ . (Once it's officially available, it will be at www.uow.edu.au/arts.sts/bmartin/pubs/98il/ - the same address except the last two characters are lower case.)

You're right that anarchists are slow to change their ways. I proposed to the journal Anarchist Studies that they move to direct web publication, thus cutting out the journal's high cost (20 pounds for two 100-page issues) and increasing its availability and visibility (there are only 150 subscribers). But apparently no one else on the large editorial board supported this. - ." - Brian Martin, Science, Technology and Society, University of Wollongong, NSW 2522, phone 02-4221 3763 work, 02-4228 7860 home,

fax 02-4221 3452.

MCELROY, WENDY, mac@zetetics.com May 7, 0: I certainly would be willing to make the writings on individualist anarchism available to you... with the exception of a book I've just finished which I will be soon marketing to university presses. Let me know what you need from me." JZ: THANKS VERY MUCH for that offer. - Please note that I will not be the likely publisher of the first cooperatively compiled CD-ROM myself. But someone will, I hope, the sooner the better, get in touch with you about including the offered writings in his CD-ROM compilation. That is the purpose of my list - to induce people to combine what they have to offer on their CD-ROMs, independently produced. Once this is done, extensively, this list will make itself as superfluous as is now a list of people interested in CD-ROMs for music, games and software.

I will include you in my still all too short listing of people interested. You make about No. 56.

If you are interested, I gladly send you this short and still rough and formless list as either an appendix or an attachment. Comes to ca. 63 Kbs. Your efforts seem to be very well known by now. I found many hints and links to your site and your work online.

You might send me an announcement of your new book, with as many reviews as you like. Compare for instance how Sciabarra has advertised his book on A.R., by reproducing numerous reviews online, with his replies. I got a stack of them printed out and want to fiche them as an example on how a writer can promote his book on the Web.

Is even its title still a secret? Alas, my fiching your release and S's will be more for the record than for "publishing", seeing how unpopular microfilms still are. Others do it by Contents List or extracts from chapters - and some of the less known ones have put their whole book online.

W: Visit my home page at http://www.zetetics.com/mac and drop by http://www.ifeminists.com

J: I noted SOME Emma Goldman material on the Internet but nothing like COMPLETE WORKS, which require, with all the supplementary material, something like 69 roll films." - W: "I sit corrected. BTW, I just received 69 rolls of microfilm that constitute their collection of Mencken's papers from the New York Public Library and 4 rolls of Tucker's letters. I won't be able to get to them until early next week but I eagerly anticipating the experience.

J.: Imagine having these riches on hand, on film or CD-ROM! I confess: There is envy among libertarians, too!

Re my remark: Please note that I will not be the likely publisher of the first cooperatively compiled CD-ROM myself:

W: I am sorry to hear this. In fact, I think I should wait to find out who the publisher will be before giving a final "yes." I trust and respect you but experience has made me grow wary of giving rights of any kind to people I don't know. It will probably work out fine. J: Others will be similarly apprehensive. Making final arrangements is quite up to those listed, between themselves. E.g. Uwe Timm wants to publish some individualist anarchist material, mainly in German, on a CD-ROM and Gian Piero de Bellis wants to concentrate on panarchistic material, like his own essay on the subject, a work in progress....

W: Yes. I am definitely in the "interested" category and I am curious to see who else is on your list. Please send it to me as an attachment.

J: You might send me an announcement of your new book, with as many reviews as you like. Compare for instance how Sciabarra has advertised his book on A.R., by reproducing numerous reviews online, with his replies. I got a stack of them printed out and want to fiche them as an example on how a writer can promote his book on the Web. - Is even its title still a secret?

W: The tentative title is "The Debates of Liberty" with Liberty being Tucker's periodical rather than the concept. I have not yet circulated the manuscript, which was completed under an Earhart Foundation grant, but I need to do so within the next few weeks.

J: A summary of these prolonged arguments is certainly overdue. I was certainly glad to find your INDEX TO LIBERTY online.

W: The index of the Radical Review is online as well. http://www.zetetics.com/mac/ has a link to it.

J: ANYONE ON THIS ROUGH AND READY LIST MAY GET HIS OR HER ENTRY CHANGED AS THEY LIKE. IT WOULD BE NICE IF EACH COULD INDICATE HOW MANY MBs, e.g. in HTML OR TEXT, THEY DO HAVE TO OFFER. Do not expect ME to optimize an entry for YOU. If you can, place this list on a much frequented website - with the option for more people to enter themselves! Microfiche, CD-ROMs, Websites and this list are self-help aids.

MCQUINN, JASON, jmcquinn@coin.org - ANARCHY, A Journal of Desire Armed, 3.5.01: "I'll try to include your letter in the next ANARCHY. There's nothing wrong with making CD-ROMs, but someone has to have the time and resources to do the work. I've certainly thought about it, but I don't have enough time to do the work necessary to publish ANARCHY and ALTERNATIVE PRESS REVIEW and C.A.L. Press books, much less to do more than I am right now."

MICHEL, CHRISTIAN, 24.1.01: "John, this is a great idea. You can use all the texts published on Liberalia: www.liberalia.com - It is my web site and I have permission to publish the texts in various formats. You may want to contact the Libertarian Alliance in London, if you have not done so already. The people who would likely be dealing with this issue are two of the four founders,

Chris Tame, chris@rand.demon.co.uk & Brian Micklethwait, brianmick@londonsw1.demon.co.uk

You may call them using my name They have a library of some 800 papers on all sorts of subjects ranging from free banking to free drugs, from spirituality to prostitution, and from how to raise kids to how to write libertarian pamphlets. All these texts are presently being uploaded on the new LA website at www.libertarian.co.uk , but the process will take many months. Best wishes, Christian Michel: cmichel@cmichel.com "

MISES INSTITUTE: Guido Huelsmann, jgh@mises.org fluid in English & German, wrote, 17..7.02: "The Mises Institute is naturally also interested in CDs as a medium for the works of Mises. As you know, we have presently only Internet editions for downloading - essentially for copyrights reasons. We hope to be able to extend soon into the sphere of CDs." (My flawed translation. With its numerous releases of free market writings the Mises Institute might come close to fill a CD-ROM by itself. - J.Z.)

MIX, ARTHUR, arfamix@yahoo.com 20.3.01: "... there is a list of 50 or so articles from GREEN ANARCHIST magazine on the internet at http://website.lineone.net/~grandlaf/Lst1.htm You are welcome to put any of these on your CD-ROM as they are anti-copyright. I understand more articles are going to be put on the internet soon. ..."

NASH, GEORGE, Dr., The Conservative Intellectual Movement, contains Russell Kirk material. Excerpts from the book can be found in http://users.etown.edu/kirkbc.html Dr. Nash and Dr. Campbell are currently working on creating a CD-ROM version of The Conservative Intellectual Movement For more information on this work email Prof. Campbell at: SPBL37A@prodigy.com (May 15, 01.) Info from Russell Kirk Website: mailto:mcdonaldw@acad.etown.edu

NEW AMERICAN, THE, America's Conservative Magazine, www.thenewamerican.com "The New American on CD-ROM - $ 100.00 … offers instant keyword searching of the full text of every article (over 5000!) published in THE NEW AMERICAN from its beginning in 1985 through the April 10, 2000 issue. This resource may be the most effective letter-writing and research tool ever produced for citizen activists!" - Sorry, but I did not download, as yet, further details. It offers a free sample issue. At least on property rights, gun controls and abortion these conservatives have much in common with many libertarians. And they are often much better organized and fast in the use of new media options. - J.Z. August 14, 2002: Issues through to July 30, 2001, cost now only CD $ 90. If bought separately, if they were still all available, they would cost $ 1,115.00! It features 420 issues!

NEW ZEALAND DIGITAL LIBRARY - - UNIVERSITY OF WAIKOTO. - Note, that this is not a libertarian but a general digital library project. It seems to have much to offer to libertarian CD-ROM users. Hint received today, 14.12.00, from David Hart: "You might find this project interesting. They show how to create your own digital library either on the WWW or on a CD. They even give away the software to do it (such as a search engine). Unfortunately it only runs on a PC not a Mac. . 1. The New Zealand Digital Library -- University of Waikoto [RealPlayer, QuickTime, MPEG] http://www.nzdl.org/cgi-bin/library

This fine Website provides searchable access to a number of voluminous document collections from diverse sources around the world in the fields of history, humanitarian and global development, computer science, music, and literature...

NEWMAN, DOUGLAS F., dougnewman@juno.com 30.12.00: A link to your page will appear under "Miscellaneous Freedom on my next update some time soon." - www.geocities.com/fountoftruth THE FOUNTAIN OF TRUTH, U.S., Mirrored in free-market.net: Shortcut to 7093: Christian Libertarian. Links page updated monthly.

NISSANI, NOAH, nhnisani@internet-zahav.net 11 April 01: Dear John Zube, In principle I agree with the publication in CD-ROM of my Primer on Classical Liberalism in any or all its three versions: English, Hebrew and
Spanish, together with other classical liberal (libertarian) works. The same with any or all the articles in English or Hebrew of my website. My unique condition is that the text would remain intact. I would like the directory configuration remaining as it is in my website to conserve the internal links between the files. But this and any other technical question may be considered when it will be actually. Concerning the autonomies foreseen by Jabotinsky, it appears in an article from the early twenties without a detailed plan. I am sure that he would
accept more than two autonomies if ethnic or religious groups would demand it. At my best knowing J. published his liberal ideas in numerous articles, which were put together with his other articles in a series of volumes in
Hebrew. I do not know if it was published also in English. Best wishes, Noah . - N. Nissani runs also the ZEEV (Vladimir) Jabotinsky Home Page: J. "envisioned two autonomous peoples sharing the same land and each governing their own personal, cultural and religious lives." - He may not have extended this autonomy panarchistically, into the economic, social and political spheres as well - but he came at least close to that solution.

Zeev Jabotinskky - The Israeli Classical Liberal Website is a member of the Jewish History Ring Owned by the Dinur Center for Research in Jewish History of The Hebrew University of Jerusalem. The Jewish History Ring site is owned by Noah Nissani. N. is a retired physicist. He recommends reading of the Libertarians for Life website.

NYBERG, SVEN OLAV, offers ca. 5 MBs on Stirner. He recommended 3 sites for downloading that I have not tried yet. But then I am not trying to compile a libertarian CD-ROM myself. Others are much better at such jobs. But even if only for my own files, I will check them out. He also mentioned some people to contact. solan@nonserviam.com www.nonserviam.com/solan

OBJECTIVISM.NET, The works of Ayn Rand and other Objectivist authors on CDROM! Now available for immediate delivery http://www.objectivism.net/order_cdrom.htmhttp://www.objectivism.net/order_cdrom.htm

The first and only electronically searchable, totally comprehensive reference work for the history-changing ideas of Ayn Rand! Including Anthem, We The Living, The Fountainhead, Atlas Shrugged, and the vast majority of her non-fiction writing, as well as Objectivism: The Philosophy of Ayn Rand, and other works. All this for $ 149.95. ($99.95 special student discount price.) ISBN 0-9711787-0-4 comments2@Objectivism.net "The CDROM does currently omit material in The Early Ayn Rand, but we hope to add this at a future date."

OBJECTIVIST CENTER, THE, The Essence of Objectivism, on, supposedly, audio CDs. Note from FREEDOM NEWS, info@free-market.net of 9 May 02: "The Objectivist Center. A thought-provoking six-lecture CD course that is intended for those who are new to Rand's work or have enjoyed her novels but are not deeply familiar with her philosophy. $ 65.00 from The Objectivist Center: mailto:toc@objectivistcenter.org

www.free-market.net/rd/908432375.html I wonder what fraction of a text CD-ROM this course would require if it were offered thus, instead. After all, most Ayn Rand fans are readers rather than listeners to her talks or views of movies or videos dealing with her work. - J.Z., 19.6.02.

OLSON, HOWARD R., Drhowao@aol.comMA PHD Cand., Silicon Valley College, ILN Co-founder. He suggests especially archiving libertarian dialog in the rough from various Usenet Groups for instance & keeping these CD in some form of "time capsule" with a sturdy CD-ROM Reader, archiving such data from all continents. I do agree, but hold that permanently & upon demand publishing them is of greater importance for our time than mere archival preservation. There are an enormous number of pages in this format, existing often only temporarily, and they are worth preserving for the important ideas they might contain. Important ideas are often more or less hidden in books, or magazines, like Spencer's idea of the right to ignore the State, in his 1850 Social Statics or like J.G. Fichte's idea of individual secessionism was in his 1793 book on the French Revolution, and P.E. de Puydt's idea of Panarchy was in a July 1860 edition of the Revue Trimestrielle, Brussels. Being busy with libertarian microfiching, I have not yet participated in any of these numerous discussions. Olson also forwarded my proposal to 9 others. If more followed his example, an interesting chain reaction might occur. - J.Z., 29.11.00. - In another response he favoured putting libertarian theses & dissertations on CD-ROM. This would be another important job for this option. - University Microfilms offers numerous dissertations - but at about $ 45 each, on microfilm, that is for about the cost of the filming and the first 100 duplicates of it. On a CD-ROM we might be able to get up to 500 libertarian dissertations for as little as $ 5-50 for the lot! - 18.12.00: "...your efforts. The are among the most visionary and important undertakings on the planet." - I think it is only common sense to utilize any powerful and affordable medium for libertarian writings. Many people had the same idea but still all too few people acted on it.

23.6.02: Dear John: I have finished my PhD and would be able to participate more. The only Usenet I have access to is GoogleGroups (the former Deja news). But I would be willing to archive Libertarian messages from various anarchist and libertarian groups using Adobe Acrobat so they could be burned. I would like to first do alt.politics.libertarian and talk.politics.libertarian. I think Deja goes back to 1995. - Howard R Olson, PhD , Medical Dept., Silicon Valley College http://www.SiliconValley.edu - That is simply great. - Everyone should so choose his involvement with a powerful alternative medium, hoping that others will join his efforts. That is likely to occur if e.g. the CD-ROM projects list is made to grow fast, on a popular website, until it makes itself finally quite superfluous. - J.Z., 24.6.02.

PEDDE, SEIG, Ken Schooland wrote on him, regarding Ken's bestseller: The Adventures of Jonathan Gullible": "However, for downloading the book onto CD-ROM, inquiries should be made first to Seig Pedde, spedde@cims.net - in Canada. He has already produced a CD-ROM version of the JG and would probably be happy to collaborate with others in its usage." That book production on a CD-ROM was just a test case. Both are ready to make at least this bestselling text so available, but with Schoolland reserving copyrights. He probably will use most proceeds to achieve even more translations of this book. 23 of them are soon to be assembled on a website. Pedde has also software that would make texts on CD-ROMs quite user-friendly. He is also involved in establishing a libertarian e-text offer on a website, from which books can be downloaded upon payment.

PERON, JIM, peron@gonet.co.za 15.3.01: "I am interested what you have on CD. Can you e-mail me a list of what's available but only what is available on CD. … " - Alas, then I could only point out Dr. David Hart's classical liberal CDs.

PHILOSOPHERS' MAGAZINE, THE, TMP ONLINE, issues 1-8 so far, www.philosophers.co.uk All the back issues are on the new TPM CD-ROM. www.philosophers.co.uk Editor: Dr. Jeremy Stranroom, jerry@philosophers.co.uk. Price?

PROJECT GUTENBERG: Some "Gopher Menu" that I downloaded from somewhere, sometime, indicated that "Project Gutenberg is now available on CD-ROM". No further details are known at this stage. But from prior viewing of its literature lists I do know that its collection does contain some classical freedom texts.

RAY, JOHN, jonjayray@hotmail.com, http://members.optusnet.com.au/~jonjayrayhttp://jonjayray.blogspot.com 3.8.02: "You are welcome to use anything you find there in any way you like. - So far I had seen and microfiched only 9 of his titles. Here he offers dozens. Those in scholarly magazines are probably under some copyrights restrictions by their publishers. He strongly believes in book publishing online: "When you can get a whole book zipped down to around 200 k, I am inclined to think that internet circulation is the best way of distributing texts." - Not yet for whole special libraries! And libertarian books offered there are still all too few! - J.Z.

REHMKE, GREG: The October 1992 catalog of Laissez Faire Books contained the following entry on page 38: "Solutions" by Greg Rehmke. Libertarian database (Macintosh). ET5580 (3 disks) $ 59.00. In the October 1993 edition this offer was expanded to: "Updated Edition! Solutions, by Greg Rehmke. Solutions is a HyperCard-based program for Macintosh and Windows computers containing over 500 articles and policy studies drawn from 25+ think tanks and educational foundations. Book reviews and newsleter excerpts are also included. Articles are indexed by topic and text searchable. ET5791 (five disks) $ 49.00." - I do not have any later entries on this, largely because I ceased receiving the catalog for man years, since I had little money for further orders. I do not know the current e-mail address and website of Greg Rehmke and whether he has further expanded his floppy disk offer or extended it to a CD-ROM one.

RIDEAU, FRANCOIS-RENE, fare@tunes.org Reflections & Cybernetics: http://fare.tunes.org - TUNES project for a Free Reflective Computing System, webmaster@bastiat.org 17.1.02: He recommended as a contact the mailing list bastiat-fans@bastiat.org - "Politicians are like diapers: They must be changed often. And for the same reasons. Also, adults don't need either of them." - 21.1.02, upon recommending a multi-lingual Bastiat CD: "If you publish such a CD, then I encourage you to include all the literature digitized on bastiat.org (and there are also on the web a few e-texts that bastiat.org points to but doesn't host. As for what is on econlib.org, you need the approval of FEE and/or Liberty Fund, but I think you can have it. (If they refuse it, let me know - I know someone who could change their mind.) Oh, and I know quite a few persons, including me, who are willing to buy such a CD." - As for my observation that 200 - 2,