134 - Version of 15 August 02

Version of 15 Aug. 2002

A Still All Too Short List Of Those Who Have So Far Shown To Me Some Interest In Their Libertarian CD-ROM Publishing Options. However, this short address list is here listed in additional pages - to enable me to supply some details on most. Merely a beginning, but, hopefully, not yet an end to this project, regardless of how slowly this listing has grown so far.

A shorter list of these addresses, coming only to 16 pages, is also available by e-mail.

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Added to names addresses and URLs, to the extent that they are known, are some extracts, comments, suggestions etc., still unedited and open to corrections and further entries or complete entries by those listed.

This longer list, too, is available from me upon request, free of charge, but with the request to make it also accessible to others.

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NOTE REGARDING THIS LIST:

For some years now I have mentioned the CD-ROM option for libertarians in my letters. Few had responded positively. They are listed below. I will also list new entries which you may be able and willing to supply. Moreover, I am prepared to email the expanded list to anyone interested, especially to those willing to go ahead with the project, combining the offered Mbs and editing the total properly for a CD-ROM edition. My apologies are offered to those whom I did unintentionally omit. Please point out my omissions and supply additional addresses and corrections.

I do also prefer self-descriptions to my own sometimes inapt and incomplete ones.

For the first editions mainly those Mbs batches might be included which would not lead us into copyrights hassles. However, copyrights lovers are free to do their own things and make their rights reservations on their CD-ROM contributions as well or issue their own CD-ROMs quite filled with copyrighted materials only. They could make the same copyrights reservation on CD-ROMs as they do on their Internet sites.

I for one am not skilled enough to compile the first libertarian and cooperatively compiled CD-ROM myself.

You may be, so name yourself for the job. You might, if you are lucky, get better job offers, more customers or members as a result. Most importantly, you would bring all of us a bit closer to liberty, peace, justice and prosperity, perhaps even to immortality and the stars.

"Think like a man of action. Act like a man of thought." - Henri Bergson. - But then who follows his own advice? - J.Z., 15.8.02.

All the books that e.g. LFB offers at any time could, possibly, be offered cheaply on a single CD-ROM or, anyhow, very few of them. So far it offers only a single CD-ROM, the American Freedom Library. (See under Lex Rex). Neither LFBs nor libertarian writers, editors, publishers and readers have so far learned enough from the example set by this freedom library, $ 90 for its ca. 160,000 pages, which in print on paper cost $ 11,000 to $ 15,000. This in spite of the fact that they take pride in their knowledge of economics, of computers and of the Internet.

Help to put all freedom writings at least on CD-ROMs or online - if not for yourself then for the people in developing countries, who could not afford the printed editions.

Your very survival may depend upon all of them being made finally easily, cheaply and permanently made available. It is not a matter of finance but of insight, will, determination and initiative and a labor of love. - J.Z., 8/02.

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4LITERATURE LIBRARY ON CD-ROM: "Buy more than 2,000 literary works on a single CD-ROM for only $ 19.99. That's less than a penny per book!" Among them, listed online, on 34 pages, are many of interest to libertarians. www.4literature.net

ABSHIRE, BRIAN M., Rev., The Chalcedon Foundation, April 1997: "The need for big books will always be there, but now, entire libraries can be put on CD-ROM, with fantastic search capabilities. Computers and the cheap publishing costs will also allow us to target specific niches in the market. We can identify specific needs, create multimedia presentations aimed at that need, and put the information directly into people's hands." abshire@ix.netcom.com. The Chalcedon Foundation represents Christian, Conservative & Libertarian views. Its founder, Rev. R.J. Rushdoony, opposed legal tender paper money and the over-population notions.

ACTIVATE NETWORK, www.activate.8m.com/project.htm Site recommended by Hugh Trevelyan (see below) of Anarchist Yellow Pages. copsaretops@hotmail.com They did intend to offer the best anarchist texts on a CD-ROM but did not continue with this project beyond a long URL list. Some of its young people may take it up again later.

"Activism" seems to have been their main thing. They seem to be young left anarchists. Finally, one of them replied, saying that they had given up on the CD-ROM project. No reasons were given. Another great freedom opportunity passed by - here by young anarchists. However, even they grow up and some may remember their best intentions.

ADAM SMITH RESEARCH CENTRE (ASRC) Centrum im. Adama Smitha Fundacja Akcji Gospodarczej (CAS) Bednarska St. 16 Warsaw, 00-321, Poland tel:48-22-828-47-07 fax:48-22-828-06-14. It offers its research findings on multimedia CD-ROMs. e-mail:adam.smith@adam-smith.pl URL:http://www.adam-smith.pl/ Source of information: NIRA Update, May 1998. Comments and Suggestions to nwdtt@nira.go.jp / www.nirq.go.jp NIRA's World Directory of Think Tanks. National Institute for Research Advancement (NIRA). How many other think tanks were thoughtful or poor enough to produce anything of their research on CD-ROM?

AGNOSTOPOULOS, ATHAN, Greek Writings and Words, an electronic compilation. According to a report by Any Dabilis, in Athens, this scholar is building a giant database on Europe's oldest language. smh, 24.3.01. Then he was 68. "So far, he 50 million words." ... "He estimates he has more than 20,000 works recorded." - "... he and about a dozen researchers have scanned more than 3 million pages of stories, newspaper articles, books, and magazines." The purpose is to "include the entire corpus of Greek writers." - The article was originally published by the Boston Globe. - Now, when will the freedom lovers show their love for freedom by doing the same for all freedom texts, in modern translations, quite a few from Greek originals? - Need one stress to libertarians the Greek origin of much of the pro-freedom thinking? - J.Z., 18.6.02.

ALL-TIME CLASSIC BEST SELLERS, www.classicbooksoncd.com/ by EARTH STAR PUBLISHING, infor@classicbooksoncd.com , 2002. "The new, easy-to-use ALL-TIME CLASSIC BEST SELLERS CD-ROM contains 1,097 unabridged and original versions of bestselling classic books, short stories, plays and poems in a versatile electronic text (e-text) format. … for less than 3 c each! If you were to buy the hard copy versions of these, you would pay at least $ 5,000. You save space. No book shelves required. … You save time. Each book … can be found quickly and easily. … You can electronically search … $ 29.95." It contains some titles of interest to libertarians and SF fans.
 
 

ALTERNATIVE PRESS INDEX, v.1- , 1969- . "A subject index to more than 200 "leftist to radical opinion" English language periodicals. Includes many highly regarded publications that are not indexed elsewhere. Covers a wide range of interests including gay/lesbian, native peoples, environmental issues, animals' rights, senior citizens, etc. Includes editorials, interviews, obituaries, speeches, poems, fiction, songs, and reviews. The University does NOT subscribe to all the periodicals included in this index. Search MNCAT for our holdings. If you do not find the title in MNCAT, see boxed note below. Location: Wilson (Library) Reference quarto AI3 .A27; also on CD-ROM in Wilson Reference, inquire at Reference Desk. " With this hint the University of Minnesota library points out 3 microfilm collections of the Underground newspapers.

AN-OK TA CHAI, yan_ock@lycos.com 26.12.01: "Anarchist books on CD-ROM business. … I read your letter in the recent issue of magzine "Anarchy: A Journal Of Desire Armed", # 52, Fall/Winter. My name is (I)An-ok Ta Chai, and I'm a self-proclaimed 'Anarcho-Computer Nerd'. J - Me and a friend of mine are interested in working with you on the Anarchist books-onCD-ROM project as a money-making business. We are both well-read (in both the left and the right) anarchists, and we are both experienced with computers, CD burners, scanning and OCR soft-ware. We are willing and able to work with you on this as a full-time job, however, we would like to have enough income coming from this in order to pay for our bare essentials to live. - So, this brings up the question - how can we turn this into a money-making business? Even more tricky is, how do we do this if you live in Australia and we live in the U.S.? Despite our anarchist knowledge and computer knowledge, we do not have knowledge with starting new business. - We are both extremely excited about this project, and would even be willing to move to Australia to help you work on this. However, like I said, we would want to be able to afford for our bare necessities to covered by this. - We are both eagerly awaiting your reply and want to open up a meaningful, constructive and productive dialogue around this." - I wrote them a long reply on the same day and deflated their optimism. So far there is no income in sight from this project but mainly only labors of love. If some of those interested are financial enough to pay others something for these labors of love - all the better. So far, on my short list, there seem to be no such people. If it sufficiently expands, they might get entered as well. Also people with management talent. I suggested to them that they could work on the project where they are, in their spare time, and try to sell their product through the anarchist periodicals and websites.

APPROPRIATE TECHNOLOGY SOURCEBOOK, "A shared set of Appropriate Technology Sourcebook--an indexed collection of 150,000 pages available on fiche or CD-ROM for $495--is probably the best single thing that a cluster of Third World villages could have." - Kevin Carson in: A "Political" Program for Anarchists. (At least some monetary freedom & cooperative production ideas have penetrated into this platform. At least in some circles anarchist thinking is on the move.)

ARCHIVAL BOOKS, www.archivalbooks.cominfor@archivalbooks.com offers 10 CDs on US & World History & 15 on War History, each containing from 2-32 books. Among them the Abraham Lincoln Collection of 6 books and the 2 CDs on the History of Rome & the Roman People might be of interest to libertarians.

BACKWOODS HOME MAGAZINE, "practical ideas for self-reliant living". "9 Print Anthologies, 11 CD Anthologies plus a free 2-year subscription … save $ 144." Special: Any print or CD anthology only $ 10. Ave $ 2.95 - $ 9.95 each. Activist: Oliver Del Signore. www.backwoodshome.com It still produces current issues in print on paper. - Not a bad combination. "Del Signore suggestes it is time for Americans to start refusing to comply with unconstitutional laws and edicts at all levels of government." - www.free-market.net/rd664168590.html Their 11 CD-ROM Anthologies: 1) Years 7-10 (1996-99): $ 19.95, 2) BHMs 11^th year, 2000, $ 12,95, 3.) BMH's 12^th year, 2001, $ 12.95, 4.) Massad Ayoob On ?Firearms, $ 12.95, 5.) Best of John Silveira Anthology, $ 12,95, 6.) The Coming American Dictatorship Series, $ 12.95, 7.) Best of Jackie Clay, $ 12,95, 8.) Alternative Energy Anthology, $ 12,95, 9.) Can America Be Saved From Stupid People and other essays by Dave Duffy, $ 12.95, 10.) Emergency Preparedness & Survival Guide, $ 12.95, 11.) Best of Richard Blunt6, $ 12.95. - It still produces current issues in print on paper. - Not a bad combination, seeing the remaining addiction to "paper tigers". Some time ago I was offered the rights to AUSTRALIAN SURVIVOR for A $ 2,000 but was not interested in paying as much for such material, seeing my great backlog of free material. However, someone might be able and willing to turn it into a successful CD-ROM edition. Freedom is also about survival, at every level. Christian noticed on their website and ad for www.modernsurvival.net The Magazine of Freedom and Independent Thought. Let's try to assure the survival of all libertarian writings, at least on CD-ROMs, and, perhaps, thereby, our own survival. "Del Signore suggested it is time for Americans to start refusing to comply with unconstitutional laws and edicts at all levels of government." - www.free-market.net/rd664168590.html

BANK OF WISDOM, Rare Books on CD-ROM. It offers in PDF 10 CDs, at $ 24.95 each, or the first 9 at a special for $ 199.95. 1. The Works of Robert G. Ingersoll, 2. An Introduction to Freethought. The Religion of Freedom, 3. An Appreciation of Thomas Paine, 4. Facts of Freethought, 5. Freethought and the Bible, 6. History of Woman Suffrage, 7. America. The Historic Facts, 8. The Unholy Inquisition, 9. The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, 10. The Vatican: World's Oldest Political Machine. "Electronic publishing to make the world better." - URL and e-mail address are not spelled out. If I had presently US $ 200 to spare … Alas, in my print-out of their web-pages the right hand side gets cut off. www.bank-of-wisdom.com

BELLIS, GIAN PIERO DE, gianpiero-debellis@libero.it 15.2.01: "I agree totally with you about the need for producing something, a collection on libertarian literature, focusing especially on less known texts (e.g. panarchy). I think somebody should coordinate the work (it might be you) and a clear proposal should be produced and circulated with a preliminary list of texts to be scanned/digitized (original and translations. - For my part I am presently involved in a project listing crimes and misdeeds of the Italian state from 1860 to the present time and I think that a general encyclopedia of state crimes is still missing (may be next project). Please, keep me informed about the progress of the cd-rom project in order to be of some help." - Greg Flanagan wrote me about the Bellis's website, www.polyarchy.org/ - It contains a manifesto on the history of statism and a description of what is an - anarchist & libertarian framework similar to Panarchy. There is also a large bibliography of other freedom writings. - I reproduced text of both in my most recent ON PANARCHY microfiche. (Now having reached volume XXVI.) As for his current project, I am reminded of the old Arabian proverb: "With a spoonful of honey you catch more flies than with a bucket full of vinegar!" Another comparison: The horrors of war, no matter how gruesome, haven't prevented war. On the other hand, the attractions of a comprehensive, consistent, liberating and thereby peace promoting programme, for all (but war criminals), have never been tried yet. My two peace books were mere steps in that direction. Another old proverb recommends: "Accentuate the positive". - The wilful crimes of territorial States are merely the inevitable consequence of the unconscious crime of territorial statism. - As for the CD-ROM project: One coordinator and one coordinated group cannot solve the whole libertarian publishing, library & information service problem. That's why I suggested a long list of interested people, from which xyz such groups could come to constitute themselves. One centre is merely needed to publicize all such self-publishing projects and efforts, to gain more collaborators and to avoid duplication of efforts. That centre could also produce a combined sales list for all such efforts. See the Libertarian Library project of John Humphreys. With publishing on-demand only and alternative media neither a publishing risk nor a finance problem is involved but merely the labour of collecting digitized texts or digitizing them and of combining them in such media. That makes this effort different from previous societies and publishers for the reprint of scarce old tracts, in print on paper, but similar to some of the vast microfilm collections produced over the last few decades, by over 400 microfilm publishers. - J.Z. 16.2.01. - Bellis has also recently established a multi-lingual website, and partly filled it himself, e.g. with his Italian translation of de Puydt's classical article on panarchy: www.panarchy.org . He intends to collaborate in compiling a CD-ROM on polyarchy and panarchy. Only recently has he discovered Bastiat's writings for himself and will translate some of them into Italian. He wants to combine the best writings on panarchism and polyarchy on his website and on a CD-ROM. Please do help him, me and yourself in this effort.

BEST, BEN, offered at least 3 MBs on Cryonics & Life Extension. benbest@benbest.com http://www.benbest.com/cryocdn.html I have microfiched much of his output.

BROW, PETER, inventor_92102@yahoo.com 6.12.00: "... interesting notes on CD-ROM and microfiche. I have often had thoughts along these lines too: how to archive and preserve libertarian literature." - In the following paragraphs he has reservations re the durability of data storage media and shows awareness of the archival value of microfilm and quality paper editions. Certainly, modern electronic media have several times needed conversions. But conversions can be automated and cheap - if undertaken in time. - J.Z. In his further letters he is exploring all the options & says his website NATION OF LIBERTY, is offering about 1Mb: www.geocities.com/libertarianrev Most unattributed articles are by him. His article "Why Libertarian Revolution?" attracted attention. He opposes territorial monopolies and considers himself to be a property-rights radical libertarian anarchist, whose libertarian "government" is compatible with the panarchist position. He is also interested in the libertarian microfiche option, especially for classical titles, together with a low-cost reader. He found out that CD/tape reproduction companies use CD-burners that rapidly burn 10 CDs at a time. US. computer scanners with OCR he quotes now as being available for US 80-90 and considers buying one himself. (By now I have seen them advertised by STRATHFIELD, June 02, for A $ 98 and 700 Mbs CD-ROM disks for A $ 39 cents!) He, too, is aware that it would be economical even to put only a few MBs on a CD-ROM. I hope people make use of this option when submitting their Mb contribution to whoever does the compiling for them. The advantage with CD-ROMs is the wide availability of the drives for them, he pointed out. - I might get around to reproduce all the relevant letters on fiche - or on CD-ROM! - Today I found out that with an old version of WINZIP one can put over 6 Mbs even an a single and, supposedly, "simple and outdated" floppy disk, with a normal capacity of 1.44 Mbs. I put 2 of my latest PEACE PLANS LITERATURE SUPPLEMENTARY LISTING, for PP 1546 to 1768 on one floppy disk. The 2 RTF files, came to 5.8 Mbs or 907 pages.

So, why is this enormous self-publishing option, likewise, largely ignored by anarchists and libertarians? - J.Z., 18.6.02. - We do not have to "march for capitalism". All classified ads pages and shopping centres and accumulations of market stalls do that much better. But we could set all freedom texts into march, on CD-ROMs, to conquer the world - or at least liberate all those who would welcome them, to the extent that they want to be liberated. - J.Z., 27.6.02.

BUTTERBACH, CHRISTIAN, www.butterbach.net/contact.htm - an individualist anarchist, small publisher and multilingual translator (German, English and French), intends to deal extensively with exterritorial autonomy ideas and writings in 3 languages. You can find there Werner Ackermann's Cosmopolitian Union project (based upon individual secessionism, exterritorial autonomy and voluntary associationism) in 3 languages. Also my compilation of hyphenated kinds of anarchism and their opposites (and much more, by himself and others). It has been there for over a year. His was the only response. As effective or ineffective is the Internet, all too often, in achieving collaboration on important subjects. C.B. still hosts the supplementary list for PEACE PLANS 1546-1620, and may come to host the updated LMP lists for PP 1546-1768. CB: I will! He recommended various websites for downloading. So did others. Thus I might come to add such a list. - J.Z., 14.1.01. (Just another of the accumulating projects! - J.Z., 27.6.02) - Free-Market.Net claims now that it refers to over 17,000 libertarian websites. I do not yet know how many anarchist references are gathered by one of the anarchist directories. Do you? How many Mbs do all these sites come to? CB is now considering putting the short list of the CD-ROM project on his website. CB: Done already!

CHAMPION, RAFE, rchamp@bigpond.net.au On 31 March 01 he replied: "Will consider the possibility of CD rom publication as you suggest." http://zap.to/rafechampion

CHOMSKY, NOAM, I noticed 2 multi-media CD-ROMs by this famous or infamous leftist and somewhat anarchistic writer, Noam Chomsky. Both were offered expensively (by JURA BOOKS with its low costs plus charges) and contained only the equivalent of one or two books or long lectures each - instead of 200 - 2,000 in full texts, without pictures and movie clips. Even THE LIBRARY OF THE FUTURE contains more genuine freedom texts in its single CD-ROM than these 2 "anarchistic" multi-media offers did - but only in plain text. I was not tempted by that "anarchist's" CD-ROM offer at all or by any of his many bound books. However, he seems to have been the first "anarchist" to have made use of this publishing medium. For that I can respect him. In April 01 AK Press advertised 2 audio CDs by him, these or additional ones: "In the first disc he speaks about the murky blood-soaked reality of America's New World Order - whether it's NAFTA, GATT and MAI, or our relations with Palestine, Israel, Haiti and China. The second disk has his lecture focusing on the motives and consequences of US Iraq policy - a continuing (though hardly unique) shiny example of murderous hypocrisy at its most lethal." - I'm not prepared to pay for his bias in print or on a CD. - J.Z. - "Chomsky, Noam: Classics in politics. CD-Rom met de volledige teksten van Class Warfare, The Culture of Terrorism, Fateful triangle, Necessary illusions, Powers & Prospects, Turning the Tide, World Orders, Old and New. Met zoekfaciliteiten (o.a. Boolean) en duizenden geïndexeerde onderwerpen. Geschikt voor Windows 3.1, 95/98 of NT, Mac & Unix. 2000 fr." : August 02 list of "ZWART & ROOD", Gent, postbus 86, 9000 GENT, Netherlands.

CLOUD, MICHAEL, "Two great talks on libertarian communication by Michael Cloud (on CD or tape) …" Talk 1: Personal Responsibility is the Price of Liberty. Talk 2: Liberty or Licence? $ 20, plus shipping, for LIBERATOR ONLINE readers from: www.reliablehost.com/self-gov/special.html - Adv. in LIBERTATOR ONLINE, 30.7.02. All of the Advocates' written output might fit onto a single text CD-ROM!

CONSULTATIVE GROUP FOR THE INTERNATIONAL AGRI-CULTURAL RESEARCH (CGIAR), Compact Agricultural Library, Full-Text Cd-Rom Libraries For International Development, a 25-disc collection, consisting of 5,500 books and reports and representing one of the largest integrated CD-ROM collections under production. "The benefits of CD-ROM over online include: Cost Savings, Access to More Primary Information, Greater Reliability." - Matilda Butler in her report about this library.

When will we get the libertarian equivalent together?

CONTEMPORARY POLITICAL STUDIES, Political Studies Association of the UK,. An integrated edition of the complete Contemporary Political Studies, 1994-97, including the full set of over 500 papers in 4 years of CPS, is now available on CD-ROM. This edition, with fast and full indexing and search facilities, is the ideal tool for finding that definitive reference or building up a bibliography. CPS CD-ROM is available now from the PSA, priced at just £10 for all those who attended the 1997 Annual Conference in Jordanstown. Otherwise, it is available free of charge, together with all new purchases of any one year's volumes of Contemporary Political Studies. It is planned that annual updates of CPS CD-ROM will be available to existing purchasers at low cost.The CD-ROM is designed to run under all versions of MS Windows, but includes versions which are suitable for other computers, such as the Apple. Orders should be sent to: PSA National Office, Department of Politics, University of Nottingham, Nottingham NG7 2RD, Tel/Fax: 01159514797, E-Mail: psa@nottingham.ac.uk - I doubt that many libertarian papers can be found there - but as a precedent for libertarian magazines, conferences and subscription incentives it is interesting. The medium has its message, one still to be fully comprehended and utilized by freedom lovers. In most countries there is no law against freedom lovers fully utilizing this freedom of expression and information opportunity.

CONTESSA, GUIDO, current e-mail address not known, wrote on 18 April 01: "... You can give my address to everyone (who) is interested; You can put my address in every list You wish (I don't understand the anti-spam and privacy obsession: the web is a free speace where we can also be observed and disturbed); You can use for Your work every page of my site www.psicopolis.com (there are no restriction(s): the web is a collective brain!). Bye, Guido." - I wish many other libertarians were so open-minded - and would let me know about it! - At least some of his pages are also in English. I have not yet downloaded all of them. - J.Z., 30.4.01.

DAGNY, dagny@freedomworld.org 28.1.01:"Re CD project, yes, it's a wonderful idea to do it for free distribution to people in developing nations, esp. with the new easier, better instant translation software now available. ... keep me apprised of that. I want to include info on it, including accepting donations (directly to you) from people who would want to pay to see the basic liberty material on disk in their language." - I replied: " The very small price that could be charged to cover the costs for pressing libertarian literature on a CD-ROM, plus mailing it, could be born even by most interested people in underdeveloped countries. At least groups of them could maintain a computer with a CD-ROM drive in someone's dwelling with telephone connection. See also her extensive web pages: FREEDOM WORLD, Home Page & Links, 2pp, in PP 1664/65: www.freedomworld.org annorkin@freedomworld.org Her website is one of the most comprehensive libertarian ones. I downloaded and microfiched much of it. - 8.7.02: She has instructed her webmaster to put the short version of the CD-ROM list on her website, hopefully, one day, with a self-entry option as well.

The main donations or permissions that are required for this project are Mbs, not $'s, enough to fill one or several CD-ROMs by several to many such contributors. Zipping could expand the 650 - 800 Mbs normal capacity of a CD-ROM several times, according to my experience today, with a floppy disk, about four times,to 2.6 Gbs! And more powerful DVDs with cheap drives are already available and still more powerful blue light CDs are coming up!

Seeing the current prices for disk blanks and burners,"financing", in the conventional sense, of on-demand publishing in this format, is hardly required. (A daily Australian newspaper does already cost me more, currently A $ 1,20!) But "filling" labours are needed, on a large scale! Best and cheapest as labors of love. 650 Mbs in text is a quantity of material that does require labour. How many Mbs were in your longest texts so far? How many websites do you know that offer 650 Mbs in text, or more, with their internal links,apart from illustrations?

Towards this objective, digitizing more libertarian texts, some people volunteering for such labours and living in underdeveloped countries MIGHT become sponsored by some people living in somewhat more free and developed other countries, to keyboard or scan texts in, for some pre-arranged payment. Such arrangements, too, could be offered in this list of interested people and could be done privately among them. They would combine private foreign aid with private foreign trade.

Future buyers of libertarian CD-ROMs: Listing all those who would declare now that they would be likely to buy such CD-ROMs, when they appear, would also be helpful, at least to encourage those, who would do the compiling of already digitized & available material and those who would have to do the additional digitizing work.

But advance subscription payments to promote this kind of publishing would NOT be necessary!

Advance offers of Mbs, not necessarily sending them in to me, are necessary. It would be better holding these Mbs. back until a compiler (or several) is agreed upon. That can all be done via private arrangements among those listed.

As I have stated repeatedly, I am so far probably the least suitable compiler, being still quite a novice with CD-ROMs, apart from using the Adaptec Direct Disk format for mere storage, not readable in most CD-ROM drives.

Financial sponsorship, if any, should rather go to those who do the additional digitizing work and so some of the authors or holders of copyrights of the material, who will make their copyrighted material available on CD-ROMs, while reserving copyrights for other editions, as they do on the Web.

I do not want to have anything to do with that. I do not even want to be paid for including my own writings and those by others for which I possess copyrights. I am not in it for the money but because I consider some ideas to be of extreme importance for our times.

I DO NOT WANT ANY FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTIONS TO THIS PROJECT to end up in my pockets. I do not need any for this. It has so far only cost me time, labor and relatively small e-mail connection charges, as part of my Internet connection.

Years ago I offered to cover the cost of a first run of some hundred such CD-ROMs - if only others supplied the Mbs required and were to more skilfully assemble them than I could then and even now. Since then the commercial prices have come down for pressing CD-ROMs from ready masters, to the almost ridiculously low level of A $ 50 cents each! At home 650 Mbs on a hard disk or in a CD-ROM can be copied onto a blank CD-ROM in a burner in about 15 - 20 minutes, I was told. Only some electricity use and wear and tear on the burner are involved. That would be a quite private on-demand publishing option, not involving any commercial agency at all. Naturally, a burner can probably produce only a limited number of CD-ROMs. The master CD-ROMs do also have their limits, I was told but was not yet given a life-span figure for them. Better quality CD-ROMs, supposedly lasting 5 times as long, are now also available for A $ 1.

If somebody else manages to make some money out of this project then he has my congratulations. I just want to pass on, as widely and cheaply as possible, ideas that I consider to be important.

Nevertheless, there was, so far, no rush by libertarian, beating a path to this new libertarian mouse-trap! This small, slim, cheap and shiny disk can trap and

preserve, multiply and spread, for years, 200 - 2000 books, which means, to me, it constitutes and enormous and still neglected opportunity for freedom lovers.

I know that even better things are still to come. But the presently available CVD's, with their drives becoming cheaper and cheaper and spreading as well, would merely compound the present problem of filling 650 Mbs in one CD-ROM about 7 to 8 fold! Most people consider them to be important only for movies! That would be the last thing I would consider them to be important for!

Once all freedom writings are available from the Web and downloads of a book are down to seconds, at very affordable prices, CD-ROMs might no longer be required. How close to or far away from that condition are we? Should we simply do nothing now, just wait and hope for the best? Great opportunities should be grasped fast. I have myself been still too slow in taking up this option, being very busy with expanding the number of titles published by my other hat: LIBERTARIAN MICROFICHE PUBLISHING. But my target, 2,000 libertarian microfiche, is now only 232 LMP microfiche away, a bit more than 3 years. Please do also note, that I find it still much easier and faster to ready 1-3 books for publication on a single microfiche than to scan in and proof-read 1-3 books for digital publishing. In some ways micrographics is still leading edge technology, no matter how much these facts are ignored by computer and Internet fans.

Book lovers are peculiar people. They still prefer a 500 year old technology for their collection and they might come to want them on their own CD-ROMs, rather than having them available online.

What I WOULD LIKE to get is NOT MONEY BUT MENTIONING & DISCUSSION of the project in other libertarian publications and circles, and in e-mails by other libertarians than myself, at least in one of the two shortest forms so far, an advertisement, of 135 words, and a short expose of 628 words. See the two attachments. You know how fast and wide a message could be spread if each recipient did fast pass it on merely to two others.

The most promising option to realize this project FAST - MIGHT be the placing of this all too short address list onto a popular libertarian website and this together with a program for self-entries. In this way the list could come to grow very fast and cooperation between those listed might come to grow likewise, so fast, that the list would make itself soon superfluous, as superfluous as is now a list of people who are interested in using CD-ROMs for games, software, music and encyclopaedias! Who will so host this list???

I produced a file, still very incomplete, that gives some background on general CD-ROM texts now available. It is a still very incomplete survey based on one only of the standard reference works, that I had time to pursue during one day in the ANL in Canberra. It is available from me upon request as an e-mail attachment. (My e-mails are double checked with 2 different virus checkers, updated every 2 hours, by my service provider.

In June 02 Dagny was the first to come forward with the offer to host the CD-ROM projects list on her website, together with a self-entry program. More recently, Hubert Jongen was the second. Christian Butterbach was the third. Will we soon have half a dozen or a dozen such invitations to such fruitful collaboration on the Internet - with a common URL for self-entries? - J.Z., 27.6.02.

DUBUC, VINCENT, vincent.dubuc@libertysurf.fr French individualist anarchist, intends to publish, in text only, on a CD-ROM e.g. 2 books of Pelloutier, a history of the "work houses" and Reclus' Evolution & Revolution, the anarchist ideal, and prepares the complete issue of E. Armand's "L'unique" and his excellent work Initiation to individualist anarchism. "The main interest for this medium is its price, the facility for a person to make his own and to make a copy for buyers. … This project is on its way". - I hope he will cooperate with many other individualist anarchists, not only in France, to really fill such a CD-ROM. - J.Z., 19.7.02.

ECONLIT ON CD-ROM, it indexes e.g. THE INDEPENDENT REVIEW OF The Independent Institute.

ELECTRIC BOOK COMPANY, THE, www.elecbook.com On CD it offers Edward Gibbon, Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire and Noam Chomsky, among others. Downloadable, 4 works of J.S. Mill, 3.34 Mbs, and Adam Smith, Wealth of Nations, 4.5 Mbs, both zipped. pat-coyne@poptel.org.uk "Some of our CDs have over 30,000 individual links … for the price of a single hardback."

ELECTRONIC TEXT CENTER, University of Virginia Library, established 1992, offers ca. 45.000 on & offline humanities texts in 12 languages. The majority are SGML encoded and Internet accessible… other items are available on CD-ROM in the Center. - Apparently, duplicate CD-ROMs are not yet for sale at or from the Center. Among others it offers: "Classics of American Politics".

ERIC, "Eric is the National Education Information Network for providing ready access to the literature of education -descriptions of exemplary programs, research and development efforts, and related information that can be used in developing more effective educational programs. The ERIC database is currently available on CD-ROM." www.eric.ed.gov In print it filled about 2 dozen thick volumes. It also brings information on libertarian education experiments and literature like that of Joseph Lancaster's "monitor system".

EuroPRO-Fem et EWRC mise à jour du CD-Rom 99 en l'an 2000, APPEL A CONTRIBUTIONS
présentez votre travail, votre organisation, vos informations sur le prochain CD-Rom et recevez un exemplaire gratuit. Le réseau européen des hommes proféministes < http://www.menprofemist.org/ > (une recherche-action soutenue en 1998 par la Commission Européenne) a pour ambition de réaliser une mise à jour annuelle du CD-Rom les thèmes de la masculinité, de la violence, de l'anti-sexisme, de l'homophobie etc ... Les documents peuvent être transmis sur disquette, zip et par e.mail: city.shelter@skynet.be Previously they published such a CD for 98 & 99.

FELKINS, LEON, See LEON, F.

FIST, STEWART, fist@ozemail.com.au , not a libertarian but a computer and CD-ROM expert! 15.3.01: "I was involved in CD-ROMs from the beginning … I've also tried to get into CD-ROM publishing myself on a couple of occasions, and have had no success. I've written a 750-page reference encyclopedia on technology (which is actually four times the size on my computer disk) so I can see how it should work - but it doesn't unless you've got a large marketing operation behind you. - I also suspect that reference is better on book pages, because you want it open and available 'at the same time as you are reading on the screen' - and because you often want it available when you are reading in another room to the computer room. That's my own experience, anyway." - Stewart Fist - writer & columnist, www.australianIT.com.au/opinion/crossorads/www.abc.net.au/http/sfist/ (some archives), www.electric-words.com (main archives), 70 Middle Harbour Road, Lindfield, NSW 2070, Australia, Phone +61 2 94167458 Fax: + 61 2 94164582 - Undoubtedly, for many purposes, paper texts are preferable - IF ONE CAN GET THEM. But I have looked for many freedom texts in vain, for DECADES and in numerous libraries and bookshops. And having also a laptop would help, so would printing out some of the texts. - If anyone needs a consultant - and can afford to pay him …. I wish he would at least offer the fully version of his technology encyclopedia on a CD-ROM, in on-demand publishing only, at a reasonable price. If he is too busy, somebody might do this job for him. Among other things, he is also spreading enlightenment on radiation hazards.

FLANAGAN, GREG, Director, Libertocracy Association, net@libertocracy.com & journal@libertocracy.com 28.12.00: "That's a very ambitious project. I know that I would like to own a libertarian encyclopaedia of writings. Laissez Faire Books http://laissezfairebooks.com/index.cfm?aid=LIB is the largest and most successful dealer in freedom literature and may be willing to help produce books on CDs or contact publishers and authors who will do it themselves." www.libertocracy.com Recently he offered an excellent definition of his framework for liberty:

- "Libertocracy is a polycentric free enterprise government and socio-economic system whereby sovereign individuals join together by mutual consent in a civilization that respects and defends the freedom, dignity and rights of all people equally. - In Libercratic society people live by the rule of sovereign individual freedom, where a person is free to do anything that one chooses as long as it's not imposed on others and doesn't infringe upon the equal right of other individuals to the same freedom. - Libertocracy includes all other forms of government (or non-government anarchy) that respects individual freedom in an environment where people must govern themselves through consensual contracts." Since his ideas closely resemble those of panarchism, I downloaded ca. 6 MBs from his site, from the first 2 levels, without going into the details of the 3rd level, and include them in my latest ON PANARCHY editions on microfiche. - "I would be glad to help. I can put my collection of writings together. I noticed that you didn't want people sending you the texts. How can I best contribute my writings to the collection?" ... "There is also a treasure-trove of libertarian-anarchist writings at www.freenation.org . I can list several of the best writings on consensual government I have read if you want. I concentrate on creating a system that seeks to beat the state at providing services and solving social problems that are often cited as excuses for statist policies, all within a consensual free enterprise organization 'consensual government' - Libertocracy." Still more will be added to his already extensive website. - His is a very detailed libertarian utopia, that I have still to study. At first I thought that I discovered a flaw in his utopia, when he used the term "central banking". But, as he pointed out to me, it is only to be a competitive one and one of a volunteer community. He wrote: "To build such a library would require the cooperation of many publishers and authors. I would like to help in some way. I need to know how I can best help. I think that contacting and putting together a team of people to build a libertarian encyclopaedia has great potential. I also look forward to a day when we will have libertarian textbooks that can be used to teach a libertarian curriculum in the school or for home schooling." (Bettina Bien Greaves offers two such volumes, published by FEE and reproduced by LMP in PEACE PLANS microfiche.)

- "A libertarian encyclopaedia is a great step in that direction and would be an excellent educational resource." - He wants to reserve copyrights for his writings reproduced on CD-ROMs and on LMP microfiche. His website did partly help to fill some of my latest ON PANARCHY microfiche, of which there are now 24, towards a rather complete encyclopaedia on the subject.

FLEMING, KURT, has ca. 36 MBs to offer on Stirner. kfleming@t-online.de www.p-beier.de/Stirner/ He runs one of the largest, if not the largest archive on Stirner and his kind of individualism. Would it not be wonderful to be able to get all this, cheap and easily, on a CD-ROM?

FOLDVARY, FRED, ffoldvary@yahoo.com Author of "The Soul of Liberty", free market economist, Georgist, editor & publisher, 17.7.02: "Please put me on that list." For some of his titles see the LMP literature list for PEACE PLANS issues. Recent local secessionist article: www.free-market.net/rd716312612.html

FRENCH REVOLUTION, a multimedia disk, www.chnm.gmu.edu contains 12 topical essays, 250 images, 350 text documents, 13 songs, 13 maps etc. Called: Liberty, Equality, Fraternity, Exploring the French Revolution. produced by the Center for History and New Media, George Mason University and American Social History Project, City University of N.Y.

FREETHOUGHT BOOKS, two titles from ADDALLL, www.addall.com:Facts of Freethought ISBN: 1929708033 CD-ROM & E-book - List Price: $30.00 & Freethought & the Bible ISBN: 1929708041 - CD-ROM & E-book - List Price: $30.00. This bookshop's other 48 titles on my downloaded pages are all only in print on paper, from $ 15-130.

FUNDACIO D'ESTUDIS LIBERTARIS FEDERICA MONTSENY, CD-ROM Interactivo: "Carteles anarquistas de la Guerra Civil espanola 1936-1939", Barcelona, 2001. Casi un centenar de carteles amenizado con canciones libertarias. Precio: 1.500 pts. - I presume it offers posters and songs of the Spanish Civil War in multimedia format. - From extensive anarchist literature catalog by: Fundacion de Estudios Libertario Anselmo Lorenzo: fal@cnt.eswww.cnt.es/fal , publisher of BICEL, of which I fiched some samples.

GAMBONE, LARRY, Red Lion Press, anarchist publisher: - "... very busy lately. Thanks for the libertarian website and for the info on CD-ROM. Definitely will think about the latter, though I am new to this computer business and have a lot to learn. Have kept your message to reread and think about (and learn from)..."

22.6.02: Hello John, Thank you for the list and information. Actually you wrote me at a time that I am just about begin to put together a collection of articles for CD. What it will be is something like "The New Anarchism" which will include all the beyond left and right material, non-violence, the rejection of communism, the new mutualism, etc. I have two projects to finish first; an introductory pamphlet on mutualism and a pamphlet on Wilhelm Reich sent to me by an English anarchist. Pamphlet sales are going well, 4300 so far, at least 6 of them are also on the Web. Any Time Now has about 100 subscribers and another 40 get the e-mail edition…" redlionpress@hotmail.com

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/LarryGambone/redlionpublications.htm

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/LarryGambone/homepage.htm

http://mywebpage.netscape.com/LarryGambone/larrygambonearchive.htm

GEORGE, HENRY, WORKS, See: LINCOLN INSTITUTE.

GIBSON, HEATH, B.Com, B.Ec.(Hons), ddhrg@hunterlink.net.au - a young economist and computer expert, now living in Sydney, has provided much needed information and constructive criticism. He is doing his PhD in Internet Economics. "I am not opposed to the idea, but rather making sure that all angles are covered." He confirmed that virus-checked CD-ROMs, once burned into duplicates, are safe from further virus attacks there, unless they are put on a re-writable disk and this is placed into a burner. He advised against sending attachments on first contact and in Word and suggests rather that they be put on the Web, with only their URL mentioned. John Humphreys, ALS, has started to realize that with his LIBERTARIAN LIBRARY project. See below. "Now even a largish book, if in plain text (or even rtf) and zipped, isn't going to take that long to download. And since many internet plans are flat rate, the marginal cost of dial-up time is simply the cost of a local call." - Probably it would be best if all pro and con letters could be placed on a forum or into a chat session than going through the bottleneck of my e-mail address. He strengthened my conviction that the first cooperatively produced libertarian CD-ROMs should concentrate on not or no longer copyrighted material with sufficient references to what copyrighted materials are in print, on tapes, on microfiche or on the Web.

Who has tried not only to download a single book from the Internet but 650 Mbs of libertarian texts, enough to fill one CD-ROM, unzipped and how much time and effort did this cost him, and how much in additional connection fees, if his is not already on a flat rate and unlimited usage plan? - Now working with Telstra Big Band, Broadband ADSL, and also still at his PhD, recommends for archiving the libertarian "blog" site on which he collaborates with Jason Soon and Andrew Norton: http://catallaxyfiles.blogspot.com His own website is: http://www2.hunterlink.net.au/~ddhrg/randyte.html He wishes me best luck with the project - but does not put it on a popular libertarian website, either, perhaps because he thinks that is as easy for me as it would be for him.- J.Z.

GILSON DE LEMOS, MICHAEL, International Libertarian Organization, ILO, showed some interest: New e-mail address: mg4u@oasis.net Updated monthly: LIO: The Libertarian International www.libertarian.uni.cc Read MG's articles at www.gilson.uni.cc MG's Contrarian Articles: http://www.gilson.uni.cc - According to today's e-mail, he just wants to be informed when the CD's are ready! - Neither libertarian CD-ROMs nor liberty in general will be handed to us on a platter, without any effort on our side. - J.Z., 19.6.02. - According to my view of libertarian international cooperation, we should help to organize, as much as we can, a world-wide cooperation on such potentially very powerful projects. Finally a libertarian world library and encyclopaedia and complete and permanent libertarian publishing! - J.Z., 27.6.02.

GLOBAL AFFAIRS PUBLISHING COMPANY: Global Governance in the 21^st Century. A New Company Dedicated to Preserving America's Freedom, Sovereignty, and Independence. Global Affairs offers a New CD-Rom for the Serious Scholar of International Affairs, Economics, Finance, and Trade. Submitted by: Michael L. Chadwick = mailto:globalllpc@cyberhighway.net From: Links page of www.self-gov.org 1997. (Self-gov.org does not necessarily endorse all those sites.)

GLOBAL IDEAS BANK, Institute for Social Inventions, www.globalideasbank.org/ At least it reproduced one of my appeals for the libertarian CD-ROM project. But, obviously, it is not yet an efficient global market for ideas, for I have got no response upon that publicity. 6 had viewed the scheme there. Its latest annual selection book seems to contain mostly only trivial ideas, so I am not tempted to order it. Libertarians have so far insufficiently utilized this ideas market.

GRAYSON, ROBERT & ROEDER, JACKIE, showed some interest: rg3758@airmail.net (This address is no longer valid and I know no website for them, either. - J.Z., 21.6.02.) A website search, using their names, might reveal a new contact option. But one person can't do everything. - J.Z., 27.6.02.

GRECO, THOMAS H., Jr., circ2@mindspring.com My new book, "Money: Understanding and Creating Alternatives to Legal Tender," published by Chelsea Green, is now available. For details, see www.chelseagreen.com/Livelihood/Money.htm - This is is third monetary freedom book! - Here's the link to the excerpted, e-book version (in PDF format): www.chelseagreen.com/Livelihood/MoneyEBook.htm 20.7.02: "I certainly am supportive of your idea to compile freedom literature on CD-ROM. I have, however, other priorities. It is one thing to collect material and quite another to process and utilize it. I am more interested in the latter. How about joining me in a "Monetary Enlightenment Project." - Gladly, if all its required information is compiled e.g. on microfiche, floppy disks, CDs and online, with as much practical advice & experience as possible! Actually, I have been at it since 1952 and my friend Ulrich von Beckerath, 1882 - 1969, promoted it from 1908 to his death,

GRYFFE, LA OR GRIFFE, LA, French anarchist periodical. It intended to publish anarchist texts on CD-ROMs. I could not find out details, since its e-mail address: gryffe@multimedia.com is defunct. But some people should know how far they got with their CD-ROM project & who is still working on it, if anybody. LA GRIFFE 8 & 9: La Griffe, CCP 10 574 51 B Lyon, France. - J.Z., 31.May 01.

GUENIN, JACQUES DE, President of the Cercle Frederic Bastiat j.de.guenin@wanadoo.fr one of main the organizers of Bastiat ISIL meeting in 1901. When he heard about my complaint that no one of his circle - or anyone else - showed any interest so far, in my collected works edition of Bastiat, on 6 LMP microfiche, for a mere $ 6, he replied: "What have we done wrong to you? If someone in the Cercle Frederic Bastiat told you that we are not interested in microfiche, this is because hardly any private person has a microfiche reader. But my circle would certainly be much interested by a CD-Rom or floppy disk containing the work of Bastiat in digitalized form. ..." - I replied, among other things: "My informant from your circle has certainly not wronged me at all by expressing an opinion or lack of interest in my offers. He had and has a right to do so. He and his cause suffers more from the lack of interest in this option than I do. - The very term fiche, or leaf, is, I believe, of French origin. French people were among the first to invent microfilm and to make use of it, e.g. by attaching them to carrier pidgeons at the siege of Paris by the Prussian army. And, as far as I know, French literature collections on microfilm are among the largest and most comprehensive in the world. They cover whole centuries, e.g. of drama and poetry. The one on the French Revolution is also extremely large and the Gallica Project of the Bibliotheque Nationale, Paris, mentioned by Dr. David Hart, ... may be that project which I vaguely heard or read about, many years ago, to make all of French literature accessible at least on microfilm. I asked about it e.g. at Alliance Francaise offices in several cities and encountered only complete ignorance on this project. - Some of the best reading machines are produce in France, ... A Munich firm, Saur AG, which filmed much of the German literature up to 1950, intends to do the same for English, French, Italian and Spanish literature.... French intellectuals constituted once the forefront of the Age of Enlightenment, especially the contributors of the famous Encyclopaedia, now also available on microfilm, I believe. ... As for the scarcity of microfilm reading machines in private homes of freedom lovers: At least used microfiche machines have often been offered for as little as A $ 50, i.e., for the price of many a newly printed single book. Spencer Heath McCallum managed to get workable trading machines two times, at auctions, for US $ 1 each. With such a cheap machine they could get access to thousands of freedom titles..." But, could they be bothered? My full reply will be microfilmed or I could dig it up from my e-mails on CD, of 10 Dec. 00. - Anyhow, here is another circle just waiting to be provided with freedom information on floppies or CDs, but not yet trying to provide it itself. - J.Z., 18.6.02. - Gian Piero de Bellis has recently "discovered" Bastiat for himself and will do some Italian translations and just might do more for Bastiat's work, on CD-ROM, than this French Bastiat circle has done so far.

GULATI, ANIL (NEIL), anil.gulati.@bigpond.com , anilg@users.sourceforge.net ,Leichhardt, Sydney, (0414) 85 87 82, (02) 95183034 - He is not a libertarian but likes the idea of making ALL knowledge easily accessible and thus useful - i.e., what libertarians try to achieve only for their knowledge. - 3.8.01: "… Given the accessibility of CD-ROM storage it seems like an ideal solution, and as you point out, the number of texts that can fit onto one CD is enormous. I tend to deal in plain text, even avoiding HTML as well as the more bulky and restrictive proprietary formats such as WORD, RTF and PDF. … What a great project, deserving of all-government support, is a programme to put all uncopyrighted texts onto CD-ROM for free circulation and consumption by the whole world! … And how easily achievable that vision is given even a modicum of resources. …. it is very much the issue that 'book lovers' need to be 'sufficiently mobilized for cooperative self-publishing'. …. I do have a couple of leaflets that have been written which I believe may be of interest, although they are very short." - He also made a number of practical suggestions and asked me about the distinction between libertarians and anarchists.

GUTCHER, MARY LOU, ISIL conference organizer, MLGutscher@free-market.net

"I am quite interested in these projects. I'd like to participate in some way, but am not sure just how at the moment." - She did already much by passing information on and supplying me with some e-mail addresses.

Collecting hints towards Mbs available for this project and addresses of people interested in it, and passing them on be listed, for the time being only here, is all that is presently required. Later on, anybody is at liberty to cooperate with others on this list, and other contacts, as much or as little as he or she likes, within the sphere of their special libertarian interests. - J.Z.

HALLIDAY, ROY, royhalliday@mindspring.com Libertarian author and essayist, associated with the FREE NATION FOUNDATION FNF, http://royhalliday.home.mindspring.com/ See PEACE PLANS 1687 & 1688: "I am interested, but technophobic. I am one of those people who wishes someone else would do it. I may get into it if I can overcome my ignorance." ... "I still regard the state as a criminal organization that should be abolished ..." ... "You might enjoy an article that I recently added to my website "Operation Atlantis and the Radical Libertarian Alliance: Observations of a Fly on the Wall" at http://royhalliday.home.mindspring.com/rla.htm#rla 4 June 2001" - Dear Roy, ... I just finished reading most of your chapters and articles and do agree with you on many but not all points, marked many passages, made some hand-written comments in the margins and indicated excellent formulations for later extraction for my SLOGANS FOR LIBERTY compilation. ... Your book is one of the few that sees the significance of collective responsibility "thinking" and does attack it. We do also agree on the associated threat with nuclear and B & C "weapons" but not on all the steps required to overcome these threats. I was very glad to find segments in your book in which you express yourself like a "panarchist", "polyarchist", "liberocracy" advocate etc., to the same extent that such thinking can be found e.g. in Gian Piero de Bellis' essay, in Greg Flanagan's book, Fichte's 1793 work, in Spencer's Social Statics, in at least one chapter by David Boaz, in his book Libertarianism, in at least one article by Karl Hess and in John Gall's "Systemantics", etc. The last one speaks among other things of "Free choice of Territory (Distributional Freedom)", under which a citizen of any country is free to live in any part of the world he chooses, and of: "Free Choice" of Government (Principle of Hegemonic Indeterminacy)." "Numerous other terms have been used for the same thing. I have still not got around to put together all those I found so far. You will probably find de Puydt's dialogue on Panarchy delightful. It is attached to my main website.... Anyhow, I welcome you among the still all too sparse ranks of the "panarchists", or however you would like to call them. The present "salt of the Earth", to whom an old saying of Laotse does also apply: "To be appreciated only by a few belongs to my value." ...

As for the CD-ROM option: You say you are interested. That is good enough for me to get you on my list. You say that you are technophobic. 30 years at IBM and your websites seem to contradict this statement. In a way I am technophobic, too, always postponing the learning labors involved with a new program, or hardware, for months, sometimes years, always with the excuse that I have too much keyboarding, photocopying, stamping, pasting, reading, etc., etc., other labours on hand for my microfiche publishing. I know probably less than you do about the production of a CD-ROM containing many libertarian texts, having so far used only the Direct-CD program of ADAPTEC, in which the CD-ROM is used like a powerful floppy disk or extra hard drive disk, not its EASY CD-ROM CREATOR.

But these technical skills are NOT required to favour the use of CD-ROMs for libertarian texts. Anyhow, there are now several easy programs around for this purpose and a little bit of study and experimentation can lead one to master them sufficiently if not perfectly. Division of labour applies here, too. Many might contribute Mbs and only a few might assemble them optimally on a few CD-ROMs. Ultimately, the collectors, contributors, editors, scanners, keyboarders and readers should outnumber the editors and publishers, here, too, but the division between these two "classes" will not be a severe as it is for conventional media. Neither can I claim to be an entrepreneur, i.e., one bringing all the required knowledge and skills productively together, nor do I want to be, for this project.

Instead, I just try to gather enough addresses of interested people so that people on this list will, finally find, among those listed, enough people of their own kind and with the Mbs required to fill THEMSELVES one or even several libertarian CD-ROMs. I would gladly pass on even this list-keeping to someone able and willing to conduct it more efficiently than I did so far, e.g., by placing it on a much frequented website, with a program for adding more entries by those who like the project and want some part in it, however small this may be. I would love to get thousands listed merely as potential readers, for that could stimulate the production of libertarian CD-ROMs as well.

The whole process could run "anarchistically", based merely upon sufficient publicity for this option. ...." - J.Z., 5.6.01.

HANNAH, JAMAL, March 12, 2001, jah@www.org (No longer valid! Who knows his new one?) - Subject: Re: 100301 jah A People's Libertarian Index re CD-ROM project. "Hi.. you can include my site on your CD-ROM if you want, but keep in mind that I haven't updated some of the pages in a few years and I don't know when I'll be able to get around to it. As for syndicalism (libertarian unionism), the whole point of it is that it is NOT coercive.. it is as libertarian as you can get. Even a pure individualist can see that it is in their best interests to not get screwed over by bosses, landlords, or other authoritarians. If you don't believe people have a right to freely organize unions or you will attack my material on your CD-ROM in some snide way, then I would prefer you did not include it on the CD-ROM. - J.H."

I replied: Dear Jamal, thanks for your O.K. to include your present site and future updates You make No. 43 on my list of people who showed some interest in this subject. I wish there were many more, especially people also prepared to keyboard or scan in additional texts for CD-ROM and online reproduction. But then I have not done much keyboarding and scanning in of texts myself. Only when enough of the book fans can be mobilized can enough digitizing be achieved.

Ideally, all e.g. syndicalist texts and discussions should be placed on CD-ROMs by syndicalists themselves. I certainly cannot do all their publishing for them, not even with microfiche or CD-ROMs. They are, essentially, self-help media. If you would have had my experience with COMPULSORY unionism, then you, too, would have developed a bias against IT as well.

I'm not opposed to any voluntary unionism or syndicalism - but am opposed to those syndicalists who would want to expropriate me and others and rule me and them without our consent. All others are not perceived as a threat to me.

There are numerous alternative proposals to syndicalism to achieve liberation and self-management at the workplace. All deserve free discussion and free experimentation among those who are interested in them. Should your voluntary syndicalism or any other voluntary alternative spread most widely in free competition, then you or they would have my congratulations.

I try to avoid snide attacks but do not always succeed, at least not in the eyes of others. But, as a panarchist, I do always stress that my primary aim is maximum tolerance for all tolerant actions, however much I may disapprove of them in their contents. As long as people are tolerant they can be tolerated.

It is more important to achieve freedom of action for all than to limit freedom of expression and information in any way, no matter how mere words can sometimes be perceived as hurts. "Sticks and stones can hurt my bones, ...".

I have downloaded and printed out so many pages that I cannot presently and easily find your print-out and its URL, which I would like to include in my preliminary list of people who are somewhat interested in the project, not only your e-mail address. I would also include any version of entry that you would prefer and submit. PIOT, John Zube. - For his extensive webpages see: http://flag.blackened.net/liberty/

HART, DAVID, he is already a libertarian pioneer for CD-ROM publishing! I would say that he is the foremost libertarian CD-ROM activist! - During the last few months, he wrote on 30 Nov. 00, he has 4 published: 1: Radical Rarities of the Classical Liberal Tradition. - 2: 19th C French Dictionaries of Political Economy. 3: The French Radical Liberal Tradition. 4: Liberty and Identity in Shakespeare, Marlow and Marx (for a Liberty Fund conference in Oct. 00. - He favours faster downloading options & experiments with online teaching. "Until we have high speed domestic connections (which will come eventually) we will have to live in a hybrid world of printed text, fiche, CD-ROMs and online stuff. I don't mind this hybridity - let a thousand flowers bloom!"

He has a webpage devoted to his "Online Library of Classical Liberalism" with links to the table of contents of the above CDs. - When I first started with LMP he suggested a libertarian bibliography as the most important job to be put on microfilm. Over the years he has himself published extensive bibliographies on classical liberalism and peace. His dissertation was on Gustave de Molinari and the Anti-Etatiste Liberal Tradition, 1979, 164pp, with bibliography, reproduced in PP 135-136. See my website for some more of his writings. His e-mail letter made my day! If I could blow the trumpet, the walls of Jericho might come down again. - (They were previously undermined and propped up. The trumpets just gave the signal to pull the props away. Sufficient enlightenment can undermine or break all walls, and suddenly, like the Berlin Wall, they do come down.)

Dr. David Hart, historian and writer on classical liberalism and peace, has over 2 Giga bytes of other material on his hard disk, i.e., enough for at least 3 other libertarian CD-ROMS! He pointed out not only Project Gutenberg but also the "Gallica Project of the Bibliotheque Nationale, Paris" & has done some scanning-in of books, such as Hodgskin's Natural and Artificial Right of Property Contrasted, 1832 & consulted for Liberty Fund on creating a digital library of liberty texts, saying that they have made a small start & hopes that they will put some of their millions into a much larger effort. So, unnoticed by me, things have already been moving in the right direction. - Will enough jump on the band wagon to finish the job fast? I do not know yet how much he charges for the above 4 CD-ROMs. - J.Z., 30.11.00.

SOME GOOD NEWS: "Dear Friends and Colleagues, I am leaving the Department of History at the University of Adelaide in order to take up a new position in July 2001 as a Senior Fellow at the Liberty Fund in Indianapolis, Indiana. I will be responsible for creating a new "Online Library of Liberty". We will be putting online many classic texts in political thought, economic theory, and history from the 17th, 18th and 19th centuries. We will also be creating an online version of the "Great Books Program". The aim is to make these texts useful to scholars and students by means of introductory, thematic and biographical essays which will be linked to the relevant texts. Online research will be aided by the provision of facsimiles of first editions of the texts and the opportunity to do key word searches on HTML versions of the texts. You can expect to see the fruits of my labour online at www.libertyfund.org in the near future.- Regards David - Dr. David M. Hart, Senior Fellow, The Liberty Fund, Inc., 8335 Allison Pointe Trail, #300, Indianapolis, IN 46250-1684 - Phone: (317) 842-0880, Fax: (317) 579-6060

Email: dhart@libertyfund.org

Since David Hart has already reproduced some libertarian writings on CD-ROMs, this new job MIGHT lead to more of them. He is aware of the advantages of this medium to supplement current online speeds and options, and Liberty Fund has long tried to offer libertarian writings very cheaply, although mostly only in print. But, do not wait for Liberty Fund alone to deal with all freedom writings in a scholarly way. You yourself can use CD-ROMs, together with like-minded people, almost as easily as you could use floppy disks or microfiche for them, but more efficiently and cheaply.

According to a later letter, of 16 April 02, he is currently engaged in putting 200 classical liberal books online and is lucky enough that others are paid to do the scanning and proof- reading chore for him:

Dear John, Good to hear from you and thanks for the file. I'll have a look at it. I am working on two online projects at the moment. I am managing our website "Library of Economics and Liberty" or Econlib at http://www.econlib.org/ I have been trying to give it more of a French flavour with some books by Molinari and Destutt de Tracy. We have long list of titles we plan to put up over the next year or so. Our current schedule is 1 book every three weeks.

The other project is the Online Library of Liberty. We have about 200 titles from the classical liberal and great books tradition selected to go online as part of the first stage of the project. We are sending the books (all pre-1923 - so out of copyright in the US) to a professional scanner at the rate of 4-5 per week. We will then send the PDF scans to another company for rekeying and coding into XML. This will give us the opportunity to create HTML versions of the books to go on our website and the flexibility to convert the file into any other electronic format which may appear in the future (we hope!). I don't know when we will go "live" on the WWW - maybe later in he year when we have a critical mass of titles. - Regards David

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Dr. David M. Hart, Director, Online Library of Liberty Project, Liberty Fund Inc., 8335 Allison Pointe Trail #300

Indianapolis, IN 46250-1684, Direct Tel. (317) 579-6048 ext. 6054, Tel. (317) 842-0880, Fax (317) 577-9067

Email: dhart@libertyfund.org Websites: http://www.libertyfund.org and http://www.econlib.org/

He supplied still more details & I replied at some length. But here is not the space to reproduce all of this correspondence. Let me just remark that, in my opinion, he still underestimates the capacity of CD-ROMs and over-estimates the online options. But then the online options have so far certainly been more popular, although not always easier and cheaper - when it comes to many long texts. And his vision of a comprehensive libertarian library, economically supplying wanted texts from it an CD-ROMs, automatically compiled, duplicated and mailed for this purpose, was and is quite realistic. Any road or medium towards liberty should be fully utilized. - J.Z., 27.6.02.

HELSINKI FOUNDATION FOR HUMAN RIGHTS, ???????????? ???? ?? ?????? ???????? = Helsinki Foundation for Humas Rights : ??????? ????????????? ?????????? [?????????? ????]. - ???????, 2001. -CD-ROM. - Testas rus,. angl. - UDK 341.231.14 + 342.7. - ?ifras: CD 60. Source of info: www.lta.lt

HISTORY MATTERS, www.historymatters.gmu.eduThe History Matters Store provides direct links to purchase the books, videos, CD ROMs, and other curriculum materials authored by the American Social History Project (ASHP), the Center for History and New Media (CHNM), and the scholars and teachers included in our Talking History and Secrets of Great History Teachers sections. Books and Media Materials by the American Social History Project and/or the Center for History nd New Media:

Who Built America: Working People and the Nation's Economy, Politics, Culture, and Society, Vol. 1, 2nd ed. (book)

Who Built America: Working People and the Nation's Economy, Politics, Culture, and Society, Vol. 2, 2nd ed. (book)
Who Built America? From the Centenniel Celebration of 1876 to the Great War of 1914 (CD ROM)
Who Built America? From the Great War of 1914 to the Dawn of the Atomic Age in 1946 (CD ROM) (Orders for multiple copies only via Worth Publishers Customer Service: 1-888-330-8477; ISBN 1-57259-544-2)
Liberty, Equality, Fraternity: Exploring the French Revolution (book and CD ROM)
Liberty, Equality, Fraternity: Exploring the French Revolution (CD ROM)

HUELSMANN, GUIDO, See MISES INSTITUTE.

HUMANITY DEVELOPMENT LIBRARY 2.0, Sep. 1998, contains the equivalent of 160,000 pages or 340 kg/ US$ 20,000 of useful books/reports and newsletters on this single CD-ROM of 25 grammes. The publications are those of over 100 partners organizations and cover 23 major subjects; with each 20 to 50 books. There are about 30,000 linked images in Gif, PNG and jpg format. Prices vary from $ 4 (quantity orders) to 30 according to your country. The more expensive ones include the cost of donating a free one to an underdeveloped country. To be delivered mainly to development libraries in underdeveloped countries. humanity@humaninfo.orginfo@humaninfor.orgfeedback@humaninfo.org A copyleft system is used. Server software is made available free or at low cost. This information is also available free online at http://media.payson.tulane.edu:8083/ and soon on many servers in many countries and on very cheap CD-ROMs for redistribution in developing countries. Formerly known as "Humanity CD-ROM Project". Final aim is to include ca. 3,000 essential books at the lowest cost possible. The equivalent knowledge of 16 full university degrees available at fingertips. They aim to achieve for each developing country ca. 5,000 PC's with CD-ROM drives in ca. 1,000 places as education centres and local servers that could offer more material from other CD-ROMs. They seek further information input and distributors and financial contributions. www.humaninfo.org/ Related sites: www.worldinfo.org/www.gtz.de/www.payson.tulane.edu/www.globalprojects.org/ (The equivalent libertarian disk has still to be provided, including all the libertarian development ideas.)

HUMPHREYS, JOHN, ALS, AUSTRALIAN LIBERTARIAN SOCIETY, has a slightly different or more embracing plan which I fully agree with. He wants to offer a "libertarian library", as one of the outputs of ALS, "a resource that allows access to the most complete range of libertarian works. This includes links to web-based articles, information on how to buy libertarian works and the production and promotion of cheap alternatives - such as CD-ROMs, disk and microfiche etc. If this site doesn't provide any article on libertarianism, then it should indicate how and where you can get it ... a complete libertarian library!"- It is to build upon much previous work. The early stages are to be loaded in the new year and then constant upgrades will go on after that. "What? Any libertarian works. This includes objectivist and anarchist and free market and classical liberal works - anything that supports individual liberty and freedom." For the beginnings of this Libertarian Library see its draft: www.geocities.com/libertarian_library/ His e-mail: libertarian_aust@yahoo.com & als@liberty.every1.net ALS website: www.geocities.com/libertarian_society - Alas, he has not yet got around to develop this new website. Other commitments have kept him so far from further work on his libertarian library project.

It does contain though, some of my earlier and all too long compilations of notes on the project. - I can almost wish that he will not succeed with his new liberal-democratic party and use his talents and energy instead for further educational efforts. Much by him has been microfiched in my series. - He is still only in his early twenties. - J.Z., 18.2.02.

HUTCHINGS, JAMES, Anarchist News Service. - Alas, so far I have received only one anarchist text floppy disk, from James Hutchings, containing many left anarchist texts, unzipped, but amounting only to a bit over 1 Mb. Address: James c/o P.O. Box 503, Newtown, NSW 2042, Australia. Sent free of charge in Australia. For overseas orders include something for postage. james_hutchings@ato.gov.au But the potential of the humble floppy, for zipped texts, seems to be over 6 Mbs and 1,000 pages! A first step towards libertarian CD-ROM publishing? It appears that an 800 Mbs CD-ROM, also costing only ca. A $ 1 for the blank, could contain, WINzipped, 4 x 800 Mbs = 3.2 Gbs of anarchist and or libertarian texts, or about 3,200 times as much as he offers with this anarchist floppy disk, not quite filled. Apparently, he had difficulties and it took him some time to gather as much or as little in digitized left anarchist texts from Australian anarchists for his first anarchist floppy disk. He advertised the attempt for a while in ANARCHIST AGE WEEKLY REVIEW, in which he is a columnist. - J.Z., 18.6.02.

ID ARCHIV im IISG, First CD-ROM, put out in 1998, reproduced some of its listings. I downloaded some its lists from its website and reproduced them in PEACE PLANS 1722, first entry. This list, on CD, costs DM 30.00 (i.e., ca. Euro 15) and is essentially only a literature for sale list. Will anarchists be among the last to put their texts on CD-ROMs? May be this archive has done so already? - J.Z., 18.6.02.

INTERNATIONAL HUMANITARIAN LAW = Droit international humanitaire [Kompaktinis diskas]. - Geneva : ICRC Publications, 1996. - 1 CD-ROM : knygel? [14 p.]. - ISBN 2-88145-083-0. - UDK 341(4) + 614.855(4). - Šifras: CD71. Source of info: www.lta.lt

INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTE OF SOCIAL HISTORY, info@iisg.nl Quite independently of this CD-ROM project, the IISH, in collaboration with 3 other institutes, has produced Bakunin's collected works on a CD-ROM, featuring all his known texts as images and as text files, whenever possible both in the originals and transcripts and, whenever applicable, a French translation. It was done from its own extensive archives & the collections of 40 other archival institutions, ISBN 90 6984 303 X Price: NLG 995,- Information and orders: Edita-KNAW, P.O. Box 19121, 1000 GC Amsterdam, The Netherlands edita@bureau.knaw.nl - www.knaw.nl/bakunin/ - A bit expensive, I believe, but you can't get this information any cheaper otherwise and elsewhere. - Perhaps some anarchists will produce cheaper editions on a CD-ROM, without the archival originals but e.g. with numerous reviews and criticism? J.Z.

IROQUOIS STORY ON CD-ROM: "A look at a list of contributors to The Great Peace... The Gathering of Good Minds, a new CD-ROM and resource guide prepared by Working World, of Brantford, Ontario…" Bruce E. Johansen, bruce_johansen@unomaha.edu in his review, www.ratical.org It contains 2,600 screens of photographs, animation, and text. Johansen is author of: Debating Democracy: The Iroquois Legacy of Freedom.

JOHNSON, KEITH, keith_johnson_98@yahoo.com wrote on 18.12.00: "I think your CD-ROM Project is marvellous & will assist where I can by supplying you with information as it comes to hand. . I generally support Libertarianism, Free Market, Free Enterprise, Pauline Hanson, etc. but I cannot call myself an activist." - He has been a long-time supporter of the libertarian PROGRESS PARTY in Australia. His interests extend to physics, mathematics, the history of discoveries etc.

JONGEN, HUBERT, Libertarian International, info@libertarian.to hubertjongen@compuserve.com EUROLETTER, per e-mail. - 25/6/02: He is now considering opening a chapter on the CD-ROM project on their website and to create the facility for others to send their contributions and to announce this in their EUROLETTER and to provide progress reports. All is still in flux but this is the best news yet, in this respect, from a large libertarian organization. He even sounds impatient to go ahead! I sure won't hold him back but wrote that the last version of this list will be ready only in a few days.

KANT, IMMANUEL: Hauptwerke. CD-ROM für Win und Mac. - Hauptwerke 1781-1804; Vorkritische Schriften 1747-1777; Kleine Schriften 1784-1800; Rezensionen 1771-1786. [Text folgt der Akademie-Ausgabe "with annotated corrections".] Hrsg. vom Philosophy Documentation Center. Bowling Green 2000. & Kant, Immanuel: Philosophische Briefe und Vorlesungsnachschriften. CD-ROM für Win und Mac. - Auswahl der (philosophischen) Korrespondenz 1765-1798; Kants Vorlesung über Religionsphilosophie [K. H. L. Pölitz, 1817, ²1830]; Über Metaphysik [Pölitz, 1821]. Hrsg. vom Philosophy Documentation Center. Bowling Green 2000.

Several studies on Kant will be published on CD-ROM according to Bibliographischer Informationsdienst Nr. 27 Oktober 2001. This issue brings 430 references to Kant. But then already during his lifetime there were ca. 5,000 texts on his philosophy - and, according to some, most of them misunderstood him!

KLEIN, DANIEL, dklein@scu.edu 19.12.00: ". I am not scanning such texts. But I would be interested in purchasing such a product." - Upon a few thousand indications of interest in the product it might be offered much sooner. - Who is prepared to put this list on the Internet, with some explanations, for which I offer all my texts, as raw material, free of charge, and do so with a software program that would allow interested people to add their names, address, Mb offers, their kind and the degree to which they are prepared to collaborate in this project. Then this list might finally grow fast enough to come to the actual collection and production stages. See under DAGNY & JONGEN, HUBERT.

KNOBLAUCH, JOCHEN, would like to see a CD-ROM filled with writings by and on Stirner. He is one of the few who produce ESPERO, a German individualist anarchist periodical, in the Stirner, Tucker & J.H. Mackay tradition. Knobi@t-online.de He tried once before to publish an anarchist CD-ROM but did not get enough texts to fill it. PLEASE, do supply him with such digitized texts. He is collaborating with UWE TIMM.

KOMAN, VICTOR, the libertarian science fiction writer. He was previously involved with SOFTSERV SF publishing on floppy disks and may now be involved with J. Neil Schulman' Pulpless.com publishing online, which makes some new libertarian SF available online for a very moderate charge. I believe that once the CD-ROM project gets going, he would become involved in it as well. 12 years ago I had sent him or Schulman the address of a New Yorker anarchist, whom I had met in an Los Angeles bookshop. I lost his address. This guy intended to put 500 anarchist books onto one CD-ROM. Probably he encountered as little interest as I did more recently. But sufficient interest in this option might revive the interest of this activist as well. Perhaps his address can still be got from V.K. or J.N.S.? - J.Z., 18.6.02. Vkoman@aol.com

KOSANKE, JOHN, johnfkosanke@yahoo.com 5 April 01: "… You may also consider running libertarian publications once published through a grammar checker to reduce their grammar to an easily translatable and widely readable format such as Basic English. - I am in the process of updating my 1991 booklet, "anarcho-capitalism: principles of civilization" as an e-book. Perhaps some sort of publicity exchange can be worked out.. My anarcho-capitalist freenation project, "Las Portadas" and its centerpiece, the "Civil Order Pact", are waiting for a mouthpiece as well. Perhaps your project will offer them immortality, should they fail to materialize. - In Liberty, John F Kosanke, Architect of Las Portadas

LAISSEZ FAIRE BOOKSHOP: Quite independent of this CD-ROM project LFB has produced a "virtual con 1 disk" on CD-ROM No. CU8014. It contains the Nov. 1998 convention of 19 libertarian scholars and SF authors by LIBERTY HQ & LIBERTY ROUND TABLE, offering, thanks to audio compression technology, over 21 hours of one-on-one interviews and joint conferences on a single CD-ROM. Featured are Chris Matthew Sciabarra, Sunni Maravillosa, discussing A.R. & the libertarian left. Fred Foldvary, Wendy McElroy, Peter McWilliams, Sheldon Richman, Eric Schansberg, J. Neil Schulman, Victor Koman, James Hogan, F. Paul Wilson, Smith et al. LF Price $ 19.95. In U.S. add $ 3.50, outside $ 4.50, plus $ 1.50 for each additional item. Orders: orders@laissezfairebooks.com PGP encrypted mail is accepted. LFB, Dept. H01, 998 Howard St. # 202, San Francisco, CA 94103. Toll-free: 1-800-326-0996 or: (415) 541-9780, fax (415) 541-0597. Free monthly booklist: custsvc@laissezfairebooks.com - Not a bad bargain, compared to the audio- or video-cassette alternatives. - J.Z.

See also on the LFB offer of 3-5 disks by Greg Rehmke under REHMKE.

LANDMESSER, RALF, ralf@anarch.free.de When he recently (Feb. 02) saw my letter in ANARCHY, he reminded me that many years ago he had recommended the use of CD-ROMs to me. I had forgotten about that. The things one does, sometimes, conveniently forget, especially if one is as involved with microfiche as I have been. He published for 18 years a German anarchist calendar and directory and asked for some advertisements in German on the project, which he would launch. I did provide him with translations into German of my 2 short advertisements.

LASKA, BERND, offered "some" MBs on Stirner. laska@lsr.franken.de http://www.lsr-projekt.de

LEARNING FALLACIES CD-ROM: "0-534-52013-8 By Patrick Hurley and Joseph DeMarco, this is an interactive multimedia tutorial that uses the full capabilities of the computer, including sound, text, and motion, to guide students through the key concepts of fallacies and arguments. Sequenced cartoons and illustrations provide a rich context that helps to reinforce concepts and make for a truly memorable learning experience. The Learning Fallacies and Arguments CD-ROM can be bundled with Kahane and Cavender's text at a nominal cost." - Infor from Thomson/Wadsworth www.wadsworth.com - Philosophy page.

LEON F. (FELKINS), IMHO websites, leonf@perspicuity.net wrote 29.12.00: "I wish you the best of luck on this project. It think it has merit. I have a CD writer on my computer and I have compiled special CDs for reference. For example, I have a CD on Law/legal matters which I have downloaded from the Web. It includes glossaries and bibliographies. It makes it easy to find things even when the web may be down or I don't feel like logging in. - I will consider the possibility of my stuff on a CD but right now, I am not sure. For one reason, my pages are far from finished (if they will ever be). Further, they have lots of links. - My written stuff would hardly fill a CD, ... I don't use much graphics. Texts takes little room. My essays are typically in the 20K range. Not megabytes! - Keep me informed of any developments in your project. Just remember, links will be a problem on much of the Web based stuff." I do not know why links should be a problem. If clickable URLs and e-mail addresses cannot be provided there, which I doubt, it would not be too difficult and laborious, in most cases, to simply copy them for a live contact. - J.Z.

LEXREX, webmaster@lexrex.com www.lexrex.com has already reproduced on a single US $ 85 CD-ROM the whole over 160,000 pages of the AMERICAN FREEDOM LIBRARY OF The Western Standard Publishing Co., which in print on paper costs $ 11,000! Alas, on the website the contents of this library collection is only summarized and it seems to concentrate on some classical and constitutionalist writings. No other libertarian user of CD-COMs has so far made better use of this medium, to my knowledge. It is up to us to so combine ALL libertarian freedom writings. - J.Z., 30.4.01. - I bought a copy of it. According to its package it was produced by World Book Encyclopaedia, mentioning The Western Standard Publishing Company, and is called American Reference Library. It provides the "Largest Library of Historical and Official Documents Ever Assembled on One CD-ROM". It contains over 55,000 source documents. These are mainly of interest to conservative libertarians. Other Libertarians have still to produce their equivalent to this collection. - August 02 note: This CD is now also offered at least by LAISSEZ FAIRE BOOKS & by The Radical Academy Libertarian Books.

LIBRARY OF THE FUTURE by WOLRLD LIBRARY, INC., 2809 Main St., Irvine, CA 92714, tel.: 714-756-9500. The 3^rd edition has over 3,500 titles. I have seen it priced from A $ 20 for early editions to A $ 80 and also attached, as a freebee, with other software CDs, to computer magazines. It does contain some freedom titles, e.g. by J.S. Mill & Adam Smith. Its greatest importance is the example it sets for libertarians. According to one of my references, in text a 650 Mbs CD-ROM could carry 340,000 pages.

LICHTSCHLAG, ANDRE F., editor of the German liberal to individualist anarchist periodical "EIGENTUEMLICH FREI", offered some of his writings, many already on the Internet, for reproduction, but only with revocable permission, since he tries to make his periodical a paying proposition. For that reason he has not got the time to spare to become actively involved with microfiche and CD-ROM production. I have already microfilmed some of his writings. See my main website. More of his writings are microfilmed and listed in the supplementary list for PP 1546-1768 (which has presently no host.) Contact: Lichtschlag@eifrei.de A book by him: www.der-markt.com/home/page.jsp?queryld=124 or: Lichtschlag at amazon.com. Web, for EIGENTUEMLICH FREI: www.eifrei.de E.F. & ESPERO (Uwe Timm et al) are probably the top libertarian periodicals in Germany.

LINCOLN INSTITUTE: According to Dan Sullivan, pimann@pobox.com , 10.5.01, the Lincoln Institute is putting the works of Henry George onto a CD-ROM. No further details are known at this stage. I believe that most Georgist writings and periodicals would fit onto a single CD-ROM, not only G.H.'s works. - 1.7.02: "It is completed. I believe it sells for $ 50. Disk 1 is mostly pictures and fluff. Disk 2 has all the meat. … All the books: The Land Question, Our Land and Land Policy, A Perplexed Philosopher, Progress and Poverty, Protection or Free Trade, Science of Political Economy, and Social Problems. Also the following speeches and articles: The Single Tax: What it is and why we urge it. Why the Landowner Cannot Shift the Tax on Land Values. The Land for the People. Moses, a Lecture. Ode to Liberty, and several minor pieces in "An anthology of Henry George's Thoughts", compiled by Dr. Kenneth Wenzer." The book "Critics of Henry George" - "is not included, but a few articles, some of which are useful, by various people who submitted papers to Lincoln Institute." - It was done commercially and, obviously, did not use the full text potential fo these two disks, for reproducing much of the Georgist literature.

He suggested I contact the Robert Schalkenbach Foundation for funding, unaware that a US $ 35 cents CD-ROM hardly needs "funding" and that merely the combination of labours of love is require to fill a CD-ROM with Georgist writings - and, perhaps, the writings of some other libertarian land reformers as well. Dan Sullivan was himself working towards putting Georgist writings online - until he heard about that effort of the Lincoln Institute. Don Sullivan is associated with the SCHOOL OF COOPERATIVE INDIVIDUALISM, which has published much online and wrote an essay: Are you a Real Libertarian or a Royal Libertarian. He is hosting a Georgist conference. - J.Z., 31.5.01.

LINDSAY, GREG, Exec. Dir. The Centre for Independent Studies, 38 Oxley St., St. Leonards, NSW 2065, glindsay@cis.org.au www.cis.org.au wrote on the web: ""We are putting more and more of our stuff there. However, we are considering putting out one of our books next year as a CD-ROM too." I asked him: Why not all? Apparently, they are economical even for a single book! - With the single book one misses out on the mutual advertising effect: A whole small freedom library on a single CD-ROM. - J.Z. - According to the CIS journal POLICY, vol. 17, No. 3, they published: Jennifer Buckingham, Lucy Sullivan & Helen Hughes: State of the Nation, A Century of Change, 3^rd. edition, as book, $ 29.95, on CD-ROM, $ 29.95 and offer both for $ 45. Only one such book, on one CD-ROM, instead of hundreds or thousands, on one CD-ROM, cannot sufficiently compete with the Internet offers. And why isn't it offered more cheaply on a floppy disk? A bias for Internet use is not much better than a bias for print on paper only. Are most of the well-funded libertarian think tanks so slow in adopting CD-ROMs for massive publishing because that would make them largely superfluous? I hope not! - J.Z.

LUCRE, LUX (Pen name) showed some interest but made no MB offer so far: luxlucre@home.com - Alas, this e-mail address does no longer apply! Who has his new address? - J.Z., 22.6.02.)

MANN, FREDERICK, www.buildfreedom.com - e-mail: f-prime@buildfreedom.com wrote 2.12.00: "You're welcome to publish BuildFreedom.com and BigBooster.com materials on CD-ROM. He wants generally to increase the effectiveness of what freedom activists do to promote freedom. How many MBs does that mean? He recommended several websites, which you might find in a future separate list, appended to this circular.

MARTIN, BRIAN, - 4 December 2000: brian_martin@uow.edu.au www.uow.au/arts/sts/bmartin/ "Yes, the capacity of CD-ROMs is amazing. I've mainly burned them to save my hard disc and carry it with me while travelling overseas. Over the long term I aim to put as much of my own writing on the web as possible. For old articles that means scanning printed copies, a tedious business but straightforward.

Freedom Press gave me permission to put my/their 1998 book Information Liberation on the web, as an experiment to see whether it increases or decreases sales. I've prepared it in html and pdf, the latter looking much nicer (like a book when printed out) but requiring correspondingly more effort to get the layout just right. (The actual conversion of a word-processed document to pdf is simple and quick.) The book is just about ready to launch. You can have a look at www.uow.edu.au/arts.sts/bmartin/pubs/98IL/ . (Once it's officially available, it will be at www.uow.edu.au/arts.sts/bmartin/pubs/98il/ - the same address except the last two characters are lower case.)

You're right that anarchists are slow to change their ways. I proposed to the journal Anarchist Studies that they move to direct web publication, thus cutting out the journal's high cost (20 pounds for two 100-page issues) and increasing its availability and visibility (there are only 150 subscribers). But apparently no one else on the large editorial board supported this. - ." - Brian Martin, Science, Technology and Society, University of Wollongong, NSW 2522, phone 02-4221 3763 work, 02-4228 7860 home,

fax 02-4221 3452.

MCELROY, WENDY, mac@zetetics.com May 7, 0: I certainly would be willing to make the writings on individualist anarchism available to you... with the exception of a book I've just finished which I will be soon marketing to university presses. Let me know what you need from me." JZ: THANKS VERY MUCH for that offer. - Please note that I will not be the likely publisher of the first cooperatively compiled CD-ROM myself. But someone will, I hope, the sooner the better, get in touch with you about including the offered writings in his CD-ROM compilation. That is the purpose of my list - to induce people to combine what they have to offer on their CD-ROMs, independently produced. Once this is done, extensively, this list will make itself as superfluous as is now a list of people interested in CD-ROMs for music, games and software.

I will include you in my still all too short listing of people interested. You make about No. 56.

If you are interested, I gladly send you this short and still rough and formless list as either an appendix or an attachment. Comes to ca. 63 Kbs. Your efforts seem to be very well known by now. I found many hints and links to your site and your work online.

You might send me an announcement of your new book, with as many reviews as you like. Compare for instance how Sciabarra has advertised his book on A.R., by reproducing numerous reviews online, with his replies. I got a stack of them printed out and want to fiche them as an example on how a writer can promote his book on the Web.

Is even its title still a secret? Alas, my fiching your release and S's will be more for the record than for "publishing", seeing how unpopular microfilms still are. Others do it by Contents List or extracts from chapters - and some of the less known ones have put their whole book online.

W: Visit my home page at http://www.zetetics.com/mac and drop by http://www.ifeminists.com

J: I noted SOME Emma Goldman material on the Internet but nothing like COMPLETE WORKS, which require, with all the supplementary material, something like 69 roll films." - W: "I sit corrected. BTW, I just received 69 rolls of microfilm that constitute their collection of Mencken's papers from the New York Public Library and 4 rolls of Tucker's letters. I won't be able to get to them until early next week but I eagerly anticipating the experience.

J.: Imagine having these riches on hand, on film or CD-ROM! I confess: There is envy among libertarians, too!

Re my remark: Please note that I will not be the likely publisher of the first cooperatively compiled CD-ROM myself:

W: I am sorry to hear this. In fact, I think I should wait to find out who the publisher will be before giving a final "yes." I trust and respect you but experience has made me grow wary of giving rights of any kind to people I don't know. It will probably work out fine. J: Others will be similarly apprehensive. Making final arrangements is quite up to those listed, between themselves. E.g. Uwe Timm wants to publish some individualist anarchist material, mainly in German, on a CD-ROM and Gian Piero de Bellis wants to concentrate on panarchistic material, like his own essay on the subject, a work in progress....

W: Yes. I am definitely in the "interested" category and I am curious to see who else is on your list. Please send it to me as an attachment.

J: You might send me an announcement of your new book, with as many reviews as you like. Compare for instance how Sciabarra has advertised his book on A.R., by reproducing numerous reviews online, with his replies. I got a stack of them printed out and want to fiche them as an example on how a writer can promote his book on the Web. - Is even its title still a secret?

W: The tentative title is "The Debates of Liberty" with Liberty being Tucker's periodical rather than the concept. I have not yet circulated the manuscript, which was completed under an Earhart Foundation grant, but I need to do so within the next few weeks.

J: A summary of these prolonged arguments is certainly overdue. I was certainly glad to find your INDEX TO LIBERTY online.

W: The index of the Radical Review is online as well. http://www.zetetics.com/mac/ has a link to it.

J: ANYONE ON THIS ROUGH AND READY LIST MAY GET HIS OR HER ENTRY CHANGED AS THEY LIKE. IT WOULD BE NICE IF EACH COULD INDICATE HOW MANY MBs, e.g. in HTML OR TEXT, THEY DO HAVE TO OFFER. Do not expect ME to optimize an entry for YOU. If you can, place this list on a much frequented website - with the option for more people to enter themselves! Microfiche, CD-ROMs, Websites and this list are self-help aids.

MCQUINN, JASON, jmcquinn@coin.org - ANARCHY, A Journal of Desire Armed, 3.5.01: "I'll try to include your letter in the next ANARCHY. There's nothing wrong with making CD-ROMs, but someone has to have the time and resources to do the work. I've certainly thought about it, but I don't have enough time to do the work necessary to publish ANARCHY and ALTERNATIVE PRESS REVIEW and C.A.L. Press books, much less to do more than I am right now."

MICHEL, CHRISTIAN, 24.1.01: "John, this is a great idea. You can use all the texts published on Liberalia: www.liberalia.com - It is my web site and I have permission to publish the texts in various formats. You may want to contact the Libertarian Alliance in London, if you have not done so already. The people who would likely be dealing with this issue are two of the four founders,

Chris Tame, chris@rand.demon.co.uk & Brian Micklethwait, brianmick@londonsw1.demon.co.uk

You may call them using my name They have a library of some 800 papers on all sorts of subjects ranging from free banking to free drugs, from spirituality to prostitution, and from how to raise kids to how to write libertarian pamphlets. All these texts are presently being uploaded on the new LA website at www.libertarian.co.uk , but the process will take many months. Best wishes, Christian Michel: cmichel@cmichel.com "

MISES INSTITUTE: Guido Huelsmann, jgh@mises.org fluid in English & German, wrote, 17..7.02: "The Mises Institute is naturally also interested in CDs as a medium for the works of Mises. As you know, we have presently only Internet editions for downloading - essentially for copyrights reasons. We hope to be able to extend soon into the sphere of CDs." (My flawed translation. With its numerous releases of free market writings the Mises Institute might come close to fill a CD-ROM by itself. - J.Z.)

MIX, ARTHUR, arfamix@yahoo.com 20.3.01: "... there is a list of 50 or so articles from GREEN ANARCHIST magazine on the internet at http://website.lineone.net/~grandlaf/Lst1.htm You are welcome to put any of these on your CD-ROM as they are anti-copyright. I understand more articles are going to be put on the internet soon. ..."

NASH, GEORGE, Dr., The Conservative Intellectual Movement, contains Russell Kirk material. Excerpts from the book can be found in http://users.etown.edu/kirkbc.html Dr. Nash and Dr. Campbell are currently working on creating a CD-ROM version of The Conservative Intellectual Movement For more information on this work email Prof. Campbell at: SPBL37A@prodigy.com (May 15, 01.) Info from Russell Kirk Website: mailto:mcdonaldw@acad.etown.edu

NEW AMERICAN, THE, America's Conservative Magazine, www.thenewamerican.com "The New American on CD-ROM - $ 100.00 … offers instant keyword searching of the full text of every article (over 5000!) published in THE NEW AMERICAN from its beginning in 1985 through the April 10, 2000 issue. This resource may be the most effective letter-writing and research tool ever produced for citizen activists!" - Sorry, but I did not download, as yet, further details. It offers a free sample issue. At least on property rights, gun controls and abortion these conservatives have much in common with many libertarians. And they are often much better organized and fast in the use of new media options. - J.Z. August 14, 2002: Issues through to July 30, 2001, cost now only CD $ 90. If bought separately, if they were still all available, they would cost $ 1,115.00! It features 420 issues!

NEW ZEALAND DIGITAL LIBRARY - - UNIVERSITY OF WAIKOTO. - Note, that this is not a libertarian but a general digital library project. It seems to have much to offer to libertarian CD-ROM users. Hint received today, 14.12.00, from David Hart: "You might find this project interesting. They show how to create your own digital library either on the WWW or on a CD. They even give away the software to do it (such as a search engine). Unfortunately it only runs on a PC not a Mac. . 1. The New Zealand Digital Library -- University of Waikoto [RealPlayer, QuickTime, MPEG] http://www.nzdl.org/cgi-bin/library

This fine Website provides searchable access to a number of voluminous document collections from diverse sources around the world in the fields of history, humanitarian and global development, computer science, music, and literature...

NEWMAN, DOUGLAS F., dougnewman@juno.com 30.12.00: A link to your page will appear under "Miscellaneous Freedom on my next update some time soon." - www.geocities.com/fountoftruth THE FOUNTAIN OF TRUTH, U.S., Mirrored in free-market.net: Shortcut to 7093: Christian Libertarian. Links page updated monthly.

NISSANI, NOAH, nhnisani@internet-zahav.net 11 April 01: Dear John Zube, In principle I agree with the publication in CD-ROM of my Primer on Classical Liberalism in any or all its three versions: English, Hebrew and
Spanish, together with other classical liberal (libertarian) works. The same with any or all the articles in English or Hebrew of my website. My unique condition is that the text would remain intact. I would like the directory configuration remaining as it is in my website to conserve the internal links between the files. But this and any other technical question may be considered when it will be actually. Concerning the autonomies foreseen by Jabotinsky, it appears in an article from the early twenties without a detailed plan. I am sure that he would
accept more than two autonomies if ethnic or religious groups would demand it. At my best knowing J. published his liberal ideas in numerous articles, which were put together with his other articles in a series of volumes in
Hebrew. I do not know if it was published also in English. Best wishes, Noah . - N. Nissani runs also the ZEEV (Vladimir) Jabotinsky Home Page: J. "envisioned two autonomous peoples sharing the same land and each governing their own personal, cultural and religious lives." - He may not have extended this autonomy panarchistically, into the economic, social and political spheres as well - but he came at least close to that solution.

Zeev Jabotinskky - The Israeli Classical Liberal Website is a member of the Jewish History Ring Owned by the Dinur Center for Research in Jewish History of The Hebrew University of Jerusalem. The Jewish History Ring site is owned by Noah Nissani. N. is a retired physicist. He recommends reading of the Libertarians for Life website.

NYBERG, SVEN OLAV, offers ca. 5 MBs on Stirner. He recommended 3 sites for downloading that I have not tried yet. But then I am not trying to compile a libertarian CD-ROM myself. Others are much better at such jobs. But even if only for my own files, I will check them out. He also mentioned some people to contact. solan@nonserviam.com www.nonserviam.com/solan

OBJECTIVISM.NET, The works of Ayn Rand and other Objectivist authors on CDROM! Now available for immediate delivery http://www.objectivism.net/order_cdrom.htmhttp://www.objectivism.net/order_cdrom.htm

The first and only electronically searchable, totally comprehensive reference work for the history-changing ideas of Ayn Rand! Including Anthem, We The Living, The Fountainhead, Atlas Shrugged, and the vast majority of her non-fiction writing, as well as Objectivism: The Philosophy of Ayn Rand, and other works. All this for $ 149.95. ($99.95 special student discount price.) ISBN 0-9711787-0-4 comments2@Objectivism.net "The CDROM does currently omit material in The Early Ayn Rand, but we hope to add this at a future date."

OBJECTIVIST CENTER, THE, The Essence of Objectivism, on, supposedly, audio CDs. Note from FREEDOM NEWS, info@free-market.net of 9 May 02: "The Objectivist Center. A thought-provoking six-lecture CD course that is intended for those who are new to Rand's work or have enjoyed her novels but are not deeply familiar with her philosophy. $ 65.00 from The Objectivist Center: mailto:toc@objectivistcenter.org

www.free-market.net/rd/908432375.html I wonder what fraction of a text CD-ROM this course would require if it were offered thus, instead. After all, most Ayn Rand fans are readers rather than listeners to her talks or views of movies or videos dealing with her work. - J.Z., 19.6.02.

OLSON, HOWARD R., Drhowao@aol.comMA PHD Cand., Silicon Valley College, ILN Co-founder. He suggests especially archiving libertarian dialog in the rough from various Usenet Groups for instance & keeping these CD in some form of "time capsule" with a sturdy CD-ROM Reader, archiving such data from all continents. I do agree, but hold that permanently & upon demand publishing them is of greater importance for our time than mere archival preservation. There are an enormous number of pages in this format, existing often only temporarily, and they are worth preserving for the important ideas they might contain. Important ideas are often more or less hidden in books, or magazines, like Spencer's idea of the right to ignore the State, in his 1850 Social Statics or like J.G. Fichte's idea of individual secessionism was in his 1793 book on the French Revolution, and P.E. de Puydt's idea of Panarchy was in a July 1860 edition of the Revue Trimestrielle, Brussels. Being busy with libertarian microfiching, I have not yet participated in any of these numerous discussions. Olson also forwarded my proposal to 9 others. If more followed his example, an interesting chain reaction might occur. - J.Z., 29.11.00. - In another response he favoured putting libertarian theses & dissertations on CD-ROM. This would be another important job for this option. - University Microfilms offers numerous dissertations - but at about $ 45 each, on microfilm, that is for about the cost of the filming and the first 100 duplicates of it. On a CD-ROM we might be able to get up to 500 libertarian dissertations for as little as $ 5-50 for the lot! - 18.12.00: "...your efforts. The are among the most visionary and important undertakings on the planet." - I think it is only common sense to utilize any powerful and affordable medium for libertarian writings. Many people had the same idea but still all too few people acted on it.

23.6.02: Dear John: I have finished my PhD and would be able to participate more. The only Usenet I have access to is GoogleGroups (the former Deja news). But I would be willing to archive Libertarian messages from various anarchist and libertarian groups using Adobe Acrobat so they could be burned. I would like to first do alt.politics.libertarian and talk.politics.libertarian. I think Deja goes back to 1995. - Howard R Olson, PhD , Medical Dept., Silicon Valley College http://www.SiliconValley.edu - That is simply great. - Everyone should so choose his involvement with a powerful alternative medium, hoping that others will join his efforts. That is likely to occur if e.g. the CD-ROM projects list is made to grow fast, on a popular website, until it makes itself finally quite superfluous. - J.Z., 24.6.02.

PEDDE, SEIG, Ken Schooland wrote on him, regarding Ken's bestseller: The Adventures of Jonathan Gullible": "However, for downloading the book onto CD-ROM, inquiries should be made first to Seig Pedde, spedde@cims.net - in Canada. He has already produced a CD-ROM version of the JG and would probably be happy to collaborate with others in its usage." That book production on a CD-ROM was just a test case. Both are ready to make at least this bestselling text so available, but with Schoolland reserving copyrights. He probably will use most proceeds to achieve even more translations of this book. 23 of them are soon to be assembled on a website. Pedde has also software that would make texts on CD-ROMs quite user-friendly. He is also involved in establishing a libertarian e-text offer on a website, from which books can be downloaded upon payment.

PERON, JIM, peron@gonet.co.za 15.3.01: "I am interested what you have on CD. Can you e-mail me a list of what's available but only what is available on CD. … " - Alas, then I could only point out Dr. David Hart's classical liberal CDs.

PHILOSOPHERS' MAGAZINE, THE, TMP ONLINE, issues 1-8 so far, www.philosophers.co.uk All the back issues are on the new TPM CD-ROM. www.philosophers.co.uk Editor: Dr. Jeremy Stranroom, jerry@philosophers.co.uk. Price?

PROJECT GUTENBERG: Some "Gopher Menu" that I downloaded from somewhere, sometime, indicated that "Project Gutenberg is now available on CD-ROM". No further details are known at this stage. But from prior viewing of its literature lists I do know that its collection does contain some classical freedom texts.

RAY, JOHN, jonjayray@hotmail.com, http://members.optusnet.com.au/~jonjayrayhttp://jonjayray.blogspot.com 3.8.02: "You are welcome to use anything you find there in any way you like. - So far I had seen and microfiched only 9 of his titles. Here he offers dozens. Those in scholarly magazines are probably under some copyrights restrictions by their publishers. He strongly believes in book publishing online: "When you can get a whole book zipped down to around 200 k, I am inclined to think that internet circulation is the best way of distributing texts." - Not yet for whole special libraries! And libertarian books offered there are still all too few! - J.Z.

REHMKE, GREG: The October 1992 catalog of Laissez Faire Books contained the following entry on page 38: "Solutions" by Greg Rehmke. Libertarian database (Macintosh). ET5580 (3 disks) $ 59.00. In the October 1993 edition this offer was expanded to: "Updated Edition! Solutions, by Greg Rehmke. Solutions is a HyperCard-based program for Macintosh and Windows computers containing over 500 articles and policy studies drawn from 25+ think tanks and educational foundations. Book reviews and newsleter excerpts are also included. Articles are indexed by topic and text searchable. ET5791 (five disks) $ 49.00." - I do not have any later entries on this, largely because I ceased receiving the catalog for man years, since I had little money for further orders. I do not know the current e-mail address and website of Greg Rehmke and whether he has further expanded his floppy disk offer or extended it to a CD-ROM one.

RIDEAU, FRANCOIS-RENE, fare@tunes.org Reflections & Cybernetics: http://fare.tunes.org - TUNES project for a Free Reflective Computing System, webmaster@bastiat.org 17.1.02: He recommended as a contact the mailing list bastiat-fans@bastiat.org - "Politicians are like diapers: They must be changed often. And for the same reasons. Also, adults don't need either of them." - 21.1.02, upon recommending a multi-lingual Bastiat CD: "If you publish such a CD, then I encourage you to include all the literature digitized on bastiat.org (and there are also on the web a few e-texts that bastiat.org points to but doesn't host. As for what is on econlib.org, you need the approval of FEE and/or Liberty Fund, but I think you can have it. (If they refuse it, let me know - I know someone who could change their mind.) Oh, and I know quite a few persons, including me, who are willing to buy such a CD." - As for my observation that 200 - 2,000 books can be put onto a single CD-ROM: "Well, it depends on whether they are digitized as full-text or as scanned images. Using proper compression, the former typically takes under 1 KB per page, and the Latter between 40 and 50 KB per page, so in one case you can put 600,000 pages on a CD, and in the latter only 13,000." - "Considering my experience with digitizing Bastiat's original works (in French), I can tell you that motivating a large team of volunteers is quite a difficult task (not much has been digitized last year). That said, a definite goal - getting a CD published - might help motivate them." - "Looks like I have a lot of libertarian reading ahead. Unhappily, I also must finish my PhD thesis in computer science, so I fear I will remain more ignorant about libertarianism than I should, at least for the upcoming months."

RIVAZ, JOHN DE, with his LONGEVITY BOOKS & LONGEVITY REPORT (continued only on the Internet), wrote back in 1996, that with his life extension material he could already fill about 1/10th a CD-ROM. Mail: West Towan House, Porthtowan, Truro, Cornwall, TR4 8AX. 7.12.00: ". By all means add anything from my web sites to your CD if you wish. The www.autopsychoice.com site has a very strong libertarian stance with which I am sure that you would agree. - I think the big problem is not producing this libertarian material, but in enabling people to find the time to read it.... - my homepage links to Longevity Report, Fractal Report, music, Inventors' report, an autobio and various other projects:

http://www.geocities.com/longevityrpt http://www.autopsychoice.com - should you be able to chose autopsy? 24.6.02: http://www.deRivaz.com : http://www.AlecHarleyReeves.com John@deRivaz.com http://www.longevity-report.com : http://www.cryonics-europe.org http://www.porthtowan.com - 25.6.02: You can of course, use anything from my web sites in your CDs. I think that there is software available that will download entire web sites all in one go. - JZ: Thanks for this hint. I still have to find out more about that. - So far I am still too far from producing my first one - in a format acceptable in most CD-ROM drives.

J.de R.: One of the projects I do want to do is to get all the original printed version of LR as pdf files on a CD, but as the text information is there on the web, and as Word Perfect versions are not totally compatible with each other, this would burn off copious quantities of time. - I have made a CD of radio programmes about cryonics and immortalism, that I have collected over the past 20 years, for the Cryonics Institute - presumably they will publish it one day. However just listening to it would take several days - the programmes are highly compressed. At least you can listen to the radio whilst you are doing something else! - J.Z.: GREAT! At least another libertarian interest audio CD is thus already on offer and compressed, too, like the LFB CD, recording a 1998 libertarian conference. - All good things take time.

RUMMEL, RUDY, rummel@hawaii.edu28.4.01: "Aloha Mr. Zube, Thanks, indeed for your extensive comments on the need to publish my web site in a better, more accessible form, than the internet. I'm sold on the idea of putting it all on CDs, but do not have the capability nor funds to do this. If you know of someone that would be willing to support the effort, let them know about this. I would be happy to work with them on the effort. - - The case for freedom is now incredibly strong, but the problem remains to communicate this, especially to those with a libertarian perspective. It's frustrating to continually read about the economic virtues of freedom, while the greater role of freedom in ending wars, famines, and genocide, and mass murder are ignored. - - Putting it all on CDs would seem to help in getting the word out. - Cheers and thanks again for the e-mail. Rudy Rummel." - His scholarly work in making his case and the number of his references are enormous. Nevertheless, I believe at least his own writings would all fit onto a single CD-ROM, even with much other libertarian material added. I stressed the same aspect of liberty in 2 of my libertarian peace books - which remained outstanding non-sellers, both on microfiche and one in a primitive and home-produced and bound offset print! - Alas, my own computer, IN and CD skills are extremely limited still. Some of the others listed so far might be able and willing to help in this large project, adding their own texts and getting them thereby more widely circulated, perhaps, than they could otherwise. - We have to build up the list to its functional stage, where it will soon make itself superfluous, like such a list is now for those interested in using CD-ROMs for games, music or software. - I need much more help in this. My own e-mailing nets only very few positive responses. Webpages are needed for this list, at a popular website, with a self-entry option for those interested. Then progress MIGHT occur much faster. - J.Z., 30.4.00.

Please help to make his enormous websites better known. There are over 900 documents - books, articles, data, analyses, tables, and figures on the site, which amounts to an encyclopaedia against dictatorships and totalitarian regimes, and help him to get it all conveniently onto a CD-ROM, perhaps with more of your other favourite freedom texts: www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/WF.COVER.HTM rummel@aloha.net www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/VIS.TEARS.HTM

RUWART, MARY J., mary@ruwart.com - Xavier Collett: PREGENTIL@aol.com - talked with her about the project and she replied: "I might be interested in putting "Healing Our World" and/or "Short Answers to the Tough Questions" on such a CD-ROM. The number of megabytes would depend on the format (e.g. Word Perfect, HTML, etc.). I also have audio files for a number of my talks at various conventions." Her book, Healing Our World, is available as a free download at www.ruwart.com

SANDBLADE, EMILY, is prepared to offer, within 2 or 3 months, some Mbs. on cryptology to help reducing the State. Most of her documents are by libertarians or libertarian anarchists. (codeheadl@ix.net.com - Alas, this address does no longer apply! - Will she remain quite hidden? She did not yet offer me some Mbs on cryptology. - J.Z., 22.6.02.)

SCHARFF, STEVEN, stevenfscharff@netscape.net On 12 Jan. 00 he wrote to me:

"Firstly, I currently have no plans to compile a CD-ROM of any writings concerning the micro-sovereignty movement. My intention was to create a website devoted to links to as many micronation, sovereignty, seditionist and liberty websites as I could find. - In fact, many of those who maintain such websites found me! - When compiling your CD-ROM, you may want to consider creating pages in .pdf format. - These can be read using the Adobe Acrobat Reader (which is available free of charge), and can be printed out on any computer with a standard printer. Also, the Reader can be installed in the CD-ROM for those who have no internet access. - In determining the various projects, some that I thought were true attempts of sovereignty have turned out to be either fantasy nations or even outright frauds (such as the non-existant 'Principality of Saint Valentine'or the 'Dominion of Melchizedek', or the imposters to the Principality of Sealand), and a few are operated as elaborate satires (such as the Republic of Howland and Baker Islands, which, I must admit, had me most confused at first). It takes a bit of research to separate the wheat from the chaff. - However, I keep links to the fantasy nations because they are self-styled 'sovereignties'that, if in spirit only, proclaim their own independence as an artistic or scholarly exercise. Groups like Nova Roma even hold regularly scheduled meetings to discuss the country's progress. - I would like to include a link to any of your projects. If you could supply me with a URL, I will gladly do so. - Respectfully yours, Steven F. Scharff - MICRONATION AND SOVEREIGNTY INDEX www.angelfire.com/nv/micronations www.escape.to/anewcountry " - He takes the usual, not always clearly stated stand, in most of the responses: I have rather you or someone else realize this project than take it up myself. However, a large and growing list of such people, however limited their interest may be in pioneering it, would also attract and finally mobilize people who would be much better compilers, editors, publishers and salesmen than I am. I hope that this stage will be reached, if not through my own listing efforts than through those of others. Alas, the Internet has not yet sufficiently linked all people who could and should give much valuable information to each other. - As a panarchist I take an interest in all approaches to get away from the disaster after disaster causing territorial State systems. Considering alternatives to them only in virtual reality, among volunteers, is a cheap and riskless exercise. - J.Z., 20.6.02.

SCHOOLLAND, KEN, author of "The Adventures of Jonathan Gullible: A Free Market Odyssey". Now offered on Reg Jacklin's site: http://catalog.com/rcj/jg/english Louk Jongen in Holland is planning a website with all 23 language editions. "However, for downloading the book onto CD-ROM, inquiries should be made first to Seig Pedde, spedde@cims.net - in Canada. He has already produced a CD-ROM version of the JG and would probably be happy to collaborate with others in its usage." - New e-mail address of Ken: schoollak001@hawaii.rr.com - Pedde is happy to collaborate. He just made a test issue of a CD-ROM with Schoolland's bestseller.

Radical free migration advocates like Schoolland are still all too rare. At least one CD-ROM edition should be dedicated to this subject. - J.Z. - Because of present business negotiations on J.G., the inclusion of it in a libertarian CD-Rom is postponed. Anyhow, the book is in print and on a website and, it being short, I do not believe that its downloading would take long. We should concentrate on texts that are not so easily attainable and just refer to their availability in for sales lists, bibliographies, abstracts and ideas archives. - J.Z.

SCHULZ, BOB, mailto:bob@givemeliberty.org "The educational 'Tax Termination' package consists of: 1. Record of the Truth-in-Taxation Hearing - (the four CD-ROM package), 2. 'Attachments' CD-ROM disk (with all the other attachments), 3. floppy disk with a copy of Schulz's letter to the IRS and notes on how Bob prepared his materials for submission. www.givemeliberty.org

SCIENCE FICTION, ENCYCLOPEDIA, by CLUTE, JOHN & NICHOLLS, PETER, Hugo-award winning, now on multi-media CD-ROM. Over 4,500 entries with extensive links. www.gi.grolier.com When will we get all the worthwhile SF on CD-ROMs?

SHALIF, IIAN, gshalif@netvision.net.il 20.3.01: "A-infos have only 200 Mbs of text on-line ... as this is what we distributed in our mailing lists the last 6 years. - etext.org have a lot of anarchist text on-line. I am not sure how many MB the archive contains." "... lately we backed a-infos 1.5 Giga system through Internet... I appreciate the project you do. I just wondered if you contemplated upgrading it to internet." - Upon my remark: that a CD-ROM with 650 Mbs would be a very economical option for lastingly storing, multiplying and distributing as many texts": "No contest." & "I was thinking on a collective initiative." He suggested: "It will be nice to distribute from time to time the list of URLs of the texts available." Interested in small special and comprehensive libertarian CD-ROM library. Observed: "Some people - especially from the younger generation read from the Internet more willingly than from printed material". (J.Z.: The same screen reading is involved with CD-ROMs.) Also: "In a year or so, fast internet will be more common and cheap." (Maybe, for city people like him. - J.Z.) "Even these days downloading a 1 Mb books is very vast, easy and cheap." (J.Z.: 650 of them would still be a chore, better done by a few for all.) He recommended to look up: http://search.ainfos.ca - "You can just ask etext.org or Chuck@tao.ca or Andrew Flood andrewflood@eircom.net how big is the traffic of visitors to the anarchist text online." On his online book publishing: "If your count my libertarian DIY alternative to psychotherapy within, I just put it in two languages on a few websites." Upon: Online or CD-ROM?: "...it is not either or. - . . . not see any good reason for not using CD-ROMs." - IIan, EMAC (East Mediterranean Anarchist Collective in construction) Tel-Aviv 61132 ISRAEL (Occupied Palestine) www.shalif.com/anarchy/ & www.shalif.com/psychology/ - We seem to agree that all powerful, affordable, easy & cheap as well as lasting freedom publishing and reading options should be used in their strengths. - J.Z.

SMITH, ROBERT, RSMITH5@mn.rr.comwww.SMITH.MN (C) (L) (M) "I've also considered an idea you discussed … a CD with an enormous amount of libertarian information on it." - Not only one. All that are required to supplement all present libertarian literature offers! He offers liberty-oriented links, a Laissez Faire bookshore & personal liberty products etc., is relocating & looking for a job. (7/02)

STAGNARO, CARLO, contributor to LAISSEZ FAIRE CITY TIMES, cstagnaro@libero.it on 11.1.01: "... your idea to build a complete libertarian library finds me enthusiastic. I'll try to let as many people as possible know of it. And I think I'll write an article in the LFC Times. Anyway, give me some weeks to do it, because I have some pressing things to do. ... my first language is Italian and, as you can see, my English is not so good as I would like. So writing in English and revising what I have written takes me a lot of time." - Did such an article appear in the meantime? Where there any responses to it? - J.Z., 18.6.02. www.forces.org/stagnaro

SULLIVAN, DAN, pimann@pobox.com . See: LINCOLN INSTITUTE. Dan Sullivan was himself working towards putting Georgist writings online - until he heard about the CD-ROM effort of the Lincoln Institute. Don Sullivan is associated with the SCHOOL OF COOPERATIVE INDIVIDUALISM, which has published much online and wrote an essay: Are you a Real Libertarian or a Royal Libertarian. He is hosting a Georgist conference. - J.Z., 31.5.01.

TAKVER, 6 Dec. 00: "In response to your email you sent to Anarres Books, your proposal was discussed at one of our meetings. Anarres does not have a lot of material in digital form. However, there are a few essays on organisation and consensus decision making on our website which could be contributed. - On a personal level, I have been publishing Australian anarchist and radical history material on my own website. This includes two books on the history of anarchism in Australia and several pamphlets by Bob James. The bulk of the material is text, although there are some photos and other graphics associated with the material. At some stage down the track I was thinking about a release on CD-Rom and would consider joining a project which you have outlined. You may put down my details: Email: Takver@onaustralia.com.au Web: www.takver.com Contribution: History of anarchist-communist and left anarchism in Australia. Text and graphics. Approx size: 10MB. With solidarity Takver".

Takver's Initiatives - www.takver.com Radical Tradition - an Australasian History Page." - While communications are as short I might as well include them here complete. Later I might have to try to reduce the size of this listing for faster transmission. He did already offer an abstract version. I wish all were so concise and complete in their information offers. - J.Z. In an e-mail of 21 May 01 he provided a list of Australian anarchist conferences since 1975: takver@telstra.com - Takver's Soapbox - Melbourne antiwar activity

http://www.users.bigpond.com/Takver/soapbox/index.htm Radical Tradition, an Australasian History Page http://www.takver.com/history/index.htm

Visit Anarres Books - http://www.anarres.org.au

TESLA PATENTS, JIM BIEBERICH'S completeNikola Tesla Patent Collection: Sells the complete collection on CD-ROM mailto:jim@mall-usa.comjimb@okisemi.com Phone: 408737-6586, 2001. Apparently also online:

tesla.html at www.mall-usa.com alpha_tesla.html at www.mall-usa.com

THATCHER, MARGARET, Complete Public Statements 1945-1990 on CD-ROM. Oxford University Press, 2000. Christopher Collins, (ed.). Some of the Reviews: www.ihrinfo.ac.uk/reviews/paper/meisel.html - 29k

www.ihrinfo.ac.uk/reviews/paper/collinsC.html - 12k. Information source: IHR www.history.ac.uk

www.ihrinfo.ac.uk/reviews/revlist2000.html - 52k www.ihrinfo.ac.uk/reviews/title.html - 48k

THIRD WORLD DEBT & GLOBAL INSTITUTIONS ON CD-ROM: MA Infoshop & Concordia University, 1997, $ 25, sjc@web.net Comments to chuck0@inforshop.orgMAJORDOMO@TAO.CAwww.tao.ca/ainfos/

All the protectionist, anti-capitalist and anti-corporation prejudices of anarchists neatly assembled for refutation by free-market anarchists! If the discussion is exhaustive enough then, maybe, the antagonists will both end up as anti-monopolists, voluntarists, exterritorialists, autonomists, panarchists, polyarchists etc., rather than trying to impose their ideals upon all the dissenters in a country or the world.

TIGGRE, DON LOBO, 14.1.01: "Okay John, I get the picture. I like the project (though I'm still not convinced CD-ROM is the best way to go -- I'm also not convinced it isn't;-). I don't have time to get too deeply involved, myself, but LRT (LIBERTY ROUND TABLE) is all about projects that promote freedom ad this certainly qualifies. Some of us already have a banned book library project going. I would like to share your idea with other LRTers; maybe we can get a few volunteers for you. - But I can't just forward what you have sent. It is so long, people won't read it. Can you sum up the project, maybe providing URLs to longer & more detailed discussions of its various aspect, and inviting specific kinds of contributions (compiling, editing, searching, downloading, production, etc.) in, say, about 500 words? Even just this last message you sent, without the attachments, is way too long. - Make a pitch that's short and sweet, with links to more info for those interested, and I'll do my best to get you well past number 38. As for myself, you may list me as supportive of the idea (though it's the access to the info that excites me more than the particular distribution medium you are focusing on). I am: "Don Lobo Tiggre, Founder of the Liberty Round Table (www.LRT.org ) and co-editor of 'Doing Freedom!' (www.DoingFreedom.com ). - I'm sorry to toss the ball back to you, but I'm absolutely positive that a quick summary will arouse more interest (perhaps not only among "my" people -- something to think about), and I don't have time to whittle your massive sendings down right now (I'm up to my neck in several large projects). - Bests, DLT" - I do agree with him on every point. For me, too, the message is more important than the medium. But some media carry their own message. Humphrey's Libertarian Library proposal, on this list, is already short and sweet & refers to my project with its first 2 links. - 16.1.01 donlobo@hushmail.com (Only short messages. Otherwise storage quote can be easily exceeded!) : I'm promoting it for free via LRT right now, because I like the idea. Maybe we could work out an advertising deal where we get a percentage for promoting it on DF!" (DOING FREEDOM!)"when you're ready to roll with a product." - Tiggre's criticism induced me to finally reduce one CD-ROM project message to one page or 628 words. - J.Z., 27.1.01. - Alas, his promotion of this project - he is involved with numerous others - has not yet led, to my knowledge, to additional entries in my CD-ROM project list. - J.Z., 27.6.02.

TIMM, UWE: ESPERO & other publications of the MACKAY GESELLSCHAFT, in German, on individualist anarchism, showed interest. Recent website: www.Utespero.de Utespero@aol.com He intends to reproduce individualist anarchist material on a CD-ROM. I just sent him, upon request, a rough German translation of my shortest draft on the CD-ROM project, for circulation among German anarchists. Alas, it came already to 1,000 words. - J.Z., 27.1.01.

TOSCANO, JOE, ANARCHIST AGE WEEKLY & MONTHLY & other left anarchist material, Anarchist Media Institute. Webmaster: Attn Phil, c/o: anarchistage@yahoo.com directdemocracy@netscape.net

http://www.vicnet.net.au/~anarchist www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/3879 http://direct-democracy.8k.com He asked for an advertisement for the project and pointed out A-Infos on the net as the largest (A)-site. 12.1.01: "Our contribution to the CD-Rom would run around one million words." Joe's radio broadcasts are only available on audio XIM: www.freespeech.org/anarchistAge I sent him, many months ago, my shortest version of an advertisement for the CD-ROM project. - J.Z., 18.6.02.

TRACEY, JOHN (johntracey@platypus.net.au Not a valid address by 24.6.02.) 21 May 01: "Basic texts are essential to grasp the concept but beyond that we should not be building an Anarchist Bible. (I am not referring to the CD-ROM project, that sounds brilliant in terms of resource to assist in grasping the concept. I am taking about an attitude to these works.)" - J.Z., 31.5.01: The attitude that I desire is sufficient respect for all anarchist writings to make all of them accessible, not only the classics, as cheaply and permanently as possible, and to sum them up in growing and open anarchist encyclopaedias, bibliographies, abstracts and review compilations, and a combined and growing alphabetical index, with accumulated discussions added to each text, also in alternative media. Add directories, with special interest details, for all who want to be so known and accessible. The most important part would be an anarchist ideas archive, containing abstracts, references and pro and con. And if some anarchist texts are not respectable, then they ought to be published, too, together with their refutations. An anarchist library, ideas archive and encyclopaedia etc. would not constitute a "holy and single book" but records of a growing science of freedom.

TREVELYAN, HUGH, hugh.trevelyan@mail.com - Associated with Anarchist Yellow Pages. When approached with the CD-ROM project he replied, 230301: "Maybe of interest: www.activate.8m.com/project.htm " That is or was a project to do among other things the following: combine the best anarchist websites on a CD-ROM. But the latest entry on the website is of 98 and not all pages are downloadable for me and it contains only a not so long list of anarchist links. Are there any "survivors" of this project, ready to become active again, in this direction? 11 years ago I met in Los Angeles a guy from N.Y.C., who intended to put 500 anarchist books on a CD-ROM. The rest was silence. - I'm waiting for a reply from the "activate.8m" people. - J.Z., 280301. Finally, someone replied that the CD-ROM project had been discontinued. To that extent at least the group deactivated itself. May be, when the members grow up, one will reactivate himself again in this respect. Most interested people do not find it easy to get enough contributions to fill a CD-ROM - and then most of them simply give up, rather than publishing what they can combine on a CD-ROM and using it to invite other people to add more for the next edition. - But then I haven't done this myself, as yet, either. So, who am I to blame others for acting like me? - J.Z., 27.6.02.

TURNEY, JIM, Jim@LibertyTapes.com - famous recorder and publisher of libertarian audio tapes, wrote, in a hurry, some quick replies, 16.12.00: "I've never made a complete list, a shame, but it's a big job. I have about 6 or 8 thousands masters made since 1979... my oldest are certainly in desperate need of preservation. When I suggested: "It seems that the main advantage of digitizing lies not in the storage capacity of these electronic options (about 74 minutes only) but in the possibility to transmit the contents once it is digitized." He replied: "Exactly, but not on digital tape or CD. The Net is the best distribution system." Still, I think a preservation effort on DAT and audio CD-ROMs for the older tapes might be advisable and some libertarians should offer him help to bring this alternative media treasure fully to light, for all who might want to order from his complete list, once it appears. Who will help him to compile it? Otherwise this complete listing depends upon his limited time and energy. He wrote: "Not yet available, but one of these days." This list should certainly be offered on libertarian CD-ROMs & on the Web. Upon me writing: "I favour advancing towards liberty with all alternative media in their particular strengths", he replied: "Me too! My speciality is audio and video tape and the Net". We both agreed that transcription of tapes is still too laborious. "Not until voice recognition advances or they are widely available on the Net so anyone can do the job on any title they deem worthy." And he cleared up for me the scarcity of records of meetings of the Mount Pelerin Society: "They have a strong prohibition against any recordings." - J.Z. - 23.6.02: I'm still at this email but I moved to Cyprus in March and I'll be here for at least a year. My audio/video tape collection is stored in a former recording studio facility controlled by my father in Florida. I am not currently adding to the collection with any additional recording projects. I do still intend to preserve the collection by converting it to the digital domain. Let's stay in touch."

TWINWORLDS.COM, INC., CD-ROM Books, www.twinworlds.cominfo@twinworlds.com Most of the single books it does so publish are just novels and advice books. But among its output is one CD ROM that reproduces 3 of the classics of H.G.Wells and another the compilation by Judson G. Banks: Famous Documents of Early Americana, 1999, $ 16.95. It does not indicate the total number of items included, or the number of pages or Mbs. It is still up to libertarians to utilise the full text potential of CD-ROMs for their texts.

US ARMY, Website. Christine Kearney, in smh 2.Oct. 01 reported: "the US Army has produced a number of military field manuals on CD on all topics from light weapons, tanks and artillery to mines, military fieldcraft and combat medicine. A full set of CDs is available for less than $ US 100 on order from a Web site provided."- Some of that information could be of value for a genuinely libertarian militia, which, to my knowledge, does not yet exist anywhere except in some imaginations. It is more likely that wrongful revolutionaries and resistance fighters, fanatics and terrorists will come to abuse that knowledge, at the present stage of development. My two peace books deal to some extent with such topics. What would be needed, much more, would be CDs for effective libertarian defence methods against dictatorial regimes, as well as for liberation wars and libertarian revolutions and military uprisings against them. Democratic and republican governments are unaware how helpful consistent libertarians could be to their best intentions, how they could be strengthened by libertarian steps, in their struggle with dictatorial and tyrannical regimes. The usual military technology, tactics and strategies are just not rightful and efficient enough for libertarian purposes. They multiply rather than minimize bloodshed and achieve nothing but the foundation for the next oppressive regime and the next wrongful war. With libertarian ideas quite consistently applied, wars could largely be reduced to genuine police actions against the main war criminals - and terrorists only. What governments do instead, you can largely see e.g., by their continued air raid policies and practices, that kill probably many more innocent people than guilty ones. And now, more so than for a long time before, nuclear "weapons" are considered again as "weapons" against guilty regimes and terrorists. There would be a new and numerous breed of fanatics and terrorists among the surviving and so far innocent people - if such "weapons" are used, which are inevitably directed more against innocents than against guilty ones. - Imagine your police force hunting armed bank robbers with tanks, heavy artillery, bombers and gunships, throughout a city. That is heavy-handed governmentalism at its worst. It is a thoughtless and all too indiscriminate war against the population rather than a very discriminating action against aggressive power addicts and terrorists. Moreover, I know not even of a single government which knows and has proclaimed exclusively rightful war aims only. The imposition of a single democracy upon the warring tribes of Afghanistan, for instance, is not a rightful and sensible war aim for them. Nor are territorial monopolies in other parts of the Middle East. Full exterritorial autonomy for all of the present contestants - and for all other volunteer communities, would be. But this option is not discussed in government circles or in the peace movement circles of the opposition and not even, sufficiently, among libertarian peace activists. See my ON PANARCHY collection, now coming to 24 volumes on 24 microfiche and www.panarchy.org.- Will libertarians be the last to utilize CD-ROMs sufficiently to promote enlightenment?

WHITTEN, CHRIS, Exec. Dir. The Henry Hazlitt Foundation, publisher of Free-Market.Net: The Freedom Network www.free-market.net/ - chris@free-market.net "I'm afraid I have no idea about total MB for complete text libraries. We've made some small effort in terms of e-texts, i.e. www.hazlitt.org/e-texts/ "

WILL, JON, JonWill@UtopiaNow.org He has utopian trilogy placed online, recommended in a free-market.net listing: http://UtopiaNow.org . When I asked him about reproducing these works on my microfiche and described the CD-ROM project, he replied, 270301: "That would be fine with me. I placed these books free on the Internet for people to use as they please."

WITTGENSTEIN'S WORKS ON CD-ROM: L. Goldstein, B.A. (Liv.); Ph.D. (St. Andrews) Laurence Goldstein started teaching at the University of Hong Kong in 1976. He has just finished a book on Wittgenstein, and is currently working on a book about paradoxes in which he hopes to finally solve problems some of which have remained unsolved for over 2000 years. He has also been part of a group of scholars in Bergen, Norway, transcribing all of Wittgenstein's manuscripts to CD-ROM. - Source of info: INVITATION TO PHILOSOPHY, Department of Philosophy, The University of Hong Kong 1999-2000.

XAVIER PREGENTIL COLLET, PREGENTIL@aol.com - 5 Dec. 2000: "Thank you for your mail, the project looks quite interesting; I will answer you soon and propose it on our mailing-list." From the next message: "... PIOT's program to teach and inform about Libertarians through some CD is brilliant. There are many sources and many articles, myself I'm organizing a directory with ideas sorted by topics, that's quite a long job that steal a lot of time. But it' useful to use non-collectivist extracts for teaching. So I will put your presentation on our list and please do precisely quote what we could do to help, we have documents but most of them are in French... EuroLibertarians at http://libertarians.cjb.net French version at: http://libertariens.cjb.net - Italian version at: http://libertari.cjb.net Spanish version at: http://eurolibertarios.cjb.net Branch of the International Libertarian Network : http://maxpages.com/libertarian Subscribe to the French mailing-list: les-libertariens-subscribe@egroups.com - Note by J.Z.: I see the project as only a simple step from music, software and games CD-ROMs to libertarian texts and a whole freedom library on CD-ROM. If texts can't be included, because of copyrights, they can at least be referred to, abstracted and reviewed and included in bibliographies and indexes. Copyrights holders can hardly complain about such advertising for their works.

X, Mr. X: 11 years ago, in an L.A. bookshop I met a guy from N.Y. who intended to put 500 anarchist books onto a CD-ROM. Then I was not interested enough in this option - but I passed on his address to Victor Koman & J. Neil Schulman, who were then engaged in floppy disk publishing of books. I managed to forget his name and mislay his address - but someone else should have heard of his effort and how far he got on his own. I guess that then he found it even more difficult to find enough people to help him fill a CD-ROM. - J.Z., 30 April 01. - If V.K. & J.N.S. keep better records than I do, the address of this pioneer for this project could be retrievable from them. - J.Z., 20.6.02.

ZAPATISTAS: "At the end of July 1996, some 2,000 sympathizers from forty-three nations met in Chiapas at the EZLN-sponsored "International Encounter for Humanity and Against Neo-Liberalism"" -- as a result of this meeting, supporters formed more than 400 new Zapatista civilian committees. (91) For those who could not attend the meeting in person, the Zapatistas are ready to move to CD-ROM format, making discs that would allow followers or sympathizers to visit their jungle strongholds via computer.(92)" - Michael P. Pelaez, durruti@inet.net mexico.html at flag.blackened.net Revolt collection: revolt.html at flag.blackened.net - As with most revolutionaries, their economics knowledge seems to be poor or absent and, like most "revolutionaries" they are still conservative as territorialists. If they aimed only at exterritorial autonomy and voluntary membership for their communities then they would multiply the number of their supporters and minimize the number of their enemies.

ZCI, INC, PUBLISHING, P.O.Box 2075, Dallas, TX 75221-9720, USA, 1950 Stemmons, Suite 6048, Dallas, TX 75207-3109, Tel. 800-460-0444, Fax: 214-746-55660. - This is not a libertarian publisher but it published 2 CD-ROMs that are of some interest to some libertarians: Its CD encyclopedia on the JFK Assassination offers more than 10,000 pages of multimedia analyses, photos, reports etc. The other CD is a World Encyclopedia of Assassination, 26 "volumes", coming only to over 3,000 pages. It offers over 780 hypertext analyses, over 70 profiles of assassins, over 750 photos, over 100 questions and explanations. I do not remember the price I paid for it. It was a bargain offer. - No hard disk space is required for reading this CD. - "If you are interested in developing a Power CD title, ZCI would like to hear from you. Please write stating your professional qualifications with a description of your working title and its target market."

ZUBATY, RICH, rich@mobettah.net author of a left-anarchist book: The Corporate Cult, 390pp, $18 pb, $ 14.50 e-book or CD, available from Ingram, Quality Books, www.amazon.comwww.virtualbookworm.com His e-mails did not appeal to me but - he used a CD, even if only for this single book. ISBN 1-58939-042-3 CIP 2001003550

ZUBE, JOHN, If I were free to include all that I have downloaded and if I everything I have saved on disks so far, i.e., none of it were copyrighted, then I would by now probably have over 200 MBs to offer. A big IF. I definitely would want my main literature list included for LIBERTARIAN MICROFICHE PUBLISHING, which comes close to 5 MBs and, in future, supplementary lists, coming to at least another 5 MBs and do intend to scan in some libertarian books, my own and those of others, which appear to be very important to me. The total of this segment would probably come to ca. 20 MBs. jzube@acenet.com.au - If all freedom books were offered on 300 CD-ROMs, at, say, $ 10 each, you could mark me down for them as a customer! You, too, might be ready to mention your price for such a quantity offer. The combined advance orders might bring spur on the production effort.

Finance for it and advance payments would NOT be required. LMP website & literature list: www.acenet.com.au/~jzube

My first German book manuscript, fiched in PP 399 - 401, came digitized in RTF to 2.3 Mbs. Winzip reduced it to 579 Kbs. It is thus also transmittable via e-mail upon request, like the following. The English translation, fiched in PP 61-63, will be digitized as soon as I get a good and working scanning program again. So will be, gradually, a few dozen other libertarian books. But do not expect me to microfiche the whole PEACE PLANS series. YOU do it, if you like and if copyrights claims are no obstacles. - PIOT, John Zube, 18.6.02.

Panarchy In Our Time or: To each the government or non-governmental society of his or her dreams.

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PP1to20RTF Berrima, 14 January 2002 (One of my offers towards a libertarian CD-ROM.)

PEACE PLANS 1-20,1964-1977, now available as RTF or TEXT e-mail attachments to anyone interested, upon request, in small batches, no charge - until I can offer them cheaply on a CD-ROM, together which much other libertarian material:

PP 1 - 104 Kbs, 18 pages, 1964 - All are still available on microfiche,

PP 2 - 150 Kbs 22 " US $ 1 each - no cheques!

PP 3 - 131 Kbs 42 " (PP 1 & 2 are re-fiched on 1 fiche:$1!)

PP 4 - 129 Kbs 54 " Individual Rights Draft & Panarchy

PP 5 - 184 Kbs 67 " Concentrates on libertarian land reform

PP 6 - 163 Kbs 62 "

PP 7 - 263 Kbs 90 "

PP 8 - 440 Kbs 89 "

PP 9 - 531 Kbs First of 3 monetary freedom books by U. v.Beckerath

PP 10 - 512 Kbs Second " - total 322pp,indexed,with other FB essays.

PP 11 - 609 Kbs Third "

PP 12 - 645 Kbs 107 pages - with index to PP 1-8 & 12, plans 196 - 225.

PP 13 - 529 Kbs 91 "(Liberation at Work,Capitalist Prisons,Tax Strike)

PP 14 - 482 Kbs 90 "(Education, Vol.Tax.,Free Migration, Panarchism)

PP 15 - 430 Kbs 89 "(Brocmen,Referendum,"d"emocracy,Crime, Abortion,

Children etc.)

PP 16/8 -1,197 Kbs 264 "(John Zube: An ABC Against Nuclear War)

PP 19 C -1,051 Kbs 44+" (John Zube: Let Freedom Pay Its Way, ,2nd ed.)

PP 20 - 496 Kbs 164 " (J. & D. Zube: An Ideal Market for Freedom Ideas)

TOTAL: 7.84 Mbs from over 1450 pages, which it took me 13 years to produce.

Since then about 70 issues p.a., average 300+ pages - but only on microfiche!

Note that PEACE PLANS 19 A & B, on monetary freedom, are already available in the appendix on my main website: www.acenet.com.au/~jzube - Literature List up to PEACE PLANS 1545.

Please note also that the above listed Mbs are among my contributions towards one or several libertarian CD-ROMs that either I or others will come to compile. You may include them or any segment on your website.

Anyone may also freely reproduce the nearly 5 Mbs of my main website and the supplementary list for PEACE PLANS 1546 - 1620 that is available on the www.butterbach.net 840 Kbs, also the now finally ready 2 lists for PEACE PLANS 1546-1768, by authors and PEACE PLANS numbers, coming to close to 6 Mbs, but reduced to plain text and zipped only to ca. 1.3 Mbs on a floppy disk.

I do intend to continue my LIBERTARIAN MICROFICHE PUBLISHING until I have reached PEACE PLANS (PP) No. 2,000. But do not expect me to scan-in all of its ca. 500,000 pages. Latest: PP No.: 1725.

The microfilming of pages is still much more accurate, is automated and computerized and much easier and time- and money- aving for me, even through a commercial micrographic agency, than is scanning and proof-reading or the attempt to take over the technical microfilming myself.

My conversion from duplicating and offset printing the above early PEACE PLANS issues to microfiching the following issues helped me to increase my annual page output about 189 times!

Have you become 189 times as productive through your computer usage?

Apart from copyrights restrictions, to the extent that they can be successfully imposed upon us or are supported by you, you are invited to scan-in all those libertarian texts that you do like and that are accessible to you and to offer them e.g. on microfiche, on floppy disks, on CD-ROMs, via e-mail or on websites.

If all active libertarians did the whole job of permanent and cheap libertarian publishing, tackling e.g., the whole backlog of out of print and unpublished libertarian writings, in a division of labor scheme, in loose collaboration, just to avoid the duplication of efforts and to announce all of them, then each participant would not have to do much of this chore and spend much time, money and energy on it.

Perhaps as few as 300 CD-ROMs or at least CVDs could already reproduce all libertarian writings and 10 CD-ROMs might already contain a life-time's libertarian reading!

How many libertarian Mbs do you have to offer for the first libertarian CD-ROM issues?

How many do you offer on the Internet?

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Obviously, this list is still much too short, indefinite and insufficiently diverse.

Remind me to include you in any future list, with as many details as you like to provide, mentioning at least one e-mail address, the number of MBs that you have to offer and their kind, or may be able to provide soon for this project. I'll add more details, as they come to hand or as you mention them.

This list, with additions, as they come in, will be passed on to anyone interested. So, if you want to be excluded, please let me know.

I hold that for the first coop CD-ROM edition it would not matter if it had to be filled with contributions in different languages. Separate language editions could be produced later. The common aim should be to reproduce all freedom information in at least all of the major languages.

You would sign up only temporarily with me, and do so without any obligation, until a workshop group constitutes itself or a sufficiently close network. Consult with any of those listed. There must be many, much more suitable than I am, to go ahead with this project. I will be satisfied if I have contributed a bit to get it started and will input whatever Mbs I have too offer.

If I should soon get too many e-mail responses for me to be able to handle them, then I intend to pass them on to the first individual or group of collaborators for this project. I can handle only a limited number of additional jobs. But my present complaint is still that this list is too short rather than too long for me.

Who is able and willing to place it on the Internet, together with a programme that would allow interested people to add themselves to this list and what they have to offer for libertarian CD-ROM publishing?

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John Zube, LIBERTARIAN MICROFICHE PUBLISHING, 35 Oxley St., or P.O. Box 52, Berrima, NSW 2577, Australia, Tel. (02) 48771436 - No Fax. - E-mail: jzube@acenet.com.au - Websites: www.acenet.com.au/~jzube & supplementary literature list of LMP for PEACE PLANS 1546-1620:

http://butterbach.net/lmp/lmp_sup.htm

The PEACE PLANS series of LMP has so far reached 1768 issues, with ca. 500,000 pages, since 1977, with its titles to PP 1545 listed on the main website, on ca. 2,000 pages or close to 5 Mbs, The website also includes 6 articles on microfiching, monetary freedom & panarchism. - J.Z., 31.5.01.

Supplementary lists, alphabetical by author, with some cross references and the contents lists, by PEACE PLANS numbers, are now available too, in RTF for placement on a website or CD-ROM publishing. They come to 5.8 Mbs or 907 pages unzipped. Winzipped in plain text, they come to only 1.26 Mbs, i.e. fit onto a single floppy, which convinced my today, by my own experience, when I compiled it, that the supposedly "simple, small and outdated" floppy disk is still being far from simple, powerless and outdated.

Alas, so far I have received only one anarchist text floppy disk, from James Hutchings, containing many left anarchist texts, unzipped, but amounting only to a bit over 1 Mb. Address: James c/o P.O. Box 503, Newtown, NSW 2042, Australia. Sent free of charge in Australia. For overseas orders include something for postage. james_hutchings@ato.gov.au Anarchist News Service.

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Two relatively short advertisements for the CD-ROM project. Better wordings would be welcomed:

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WILL 300 LIBERTARIAN CD-ROMS BE ENOUGH?

HOW MANY LIBERTARIANS DOES IT TAKE TO FILL A CD-ROM?

How many libertarian Mbs can and will you contribute towards a complete libertarian publishing, library & information service on ca. 300 CD-ROMs, with all the desirable reference works, linked, like the Encyclopaedia Britannica on CD-ROM, to Internet sites? Get entered in the still small but growing list of interested people for the cooperative filling of CD-ROMs, all produced only upon demand. They are, currently, still the cheapest, easiest, most powerful, wide-spread & durable enough alternative medium for all freedom books etc. For further details see: www.geocities.com/libertarian_library/ or write to me. - PIOT, John Zube, Libertarian Microfiche Publishing: www.acenet.com.au/~jzube & http://butterbach.net/lmp/lmp_sup.htm - jzube@acenet.com.au - or: P.O. Box 52 (35 Oxley St.) Berrima, NSW 2577, Australia, Tel.: (02) 48771436. No fax!

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LIBERTARIAN CD-ROM PUBLISHING & LIBERTARIAN LIBRARY

WHAT?

Complete libertarian publishing library & information services for all freedom texts not yet cheaply, permanently & easily accessible in any medium, supplementing & listing all of freedom texts etc. offered in all media, or cheaply combining them, with permission, if required.

BY WHAT MEANS?

CD-ROMs, zipped, later CVDs, then still better disks, until all freedom texts can be found on the Internet & large & multiple websites are easy, fast & cheap enough to set up, maintain & download

A public & growing list indicating all interested & inviting independent collaboration or competition.

CD-ROM disks, drives & burners are already wide-spread & cheap. CD-ROMs are commercially pressed for as little as 50 cents. Each can contain, zipped, 200 to 2,000 book titles. A lifetime's freedom reading on a mere 10 CD-ROMs! A complete freedom library on perhaps no more than 300 CD-ROMs!

Filling them will not only require extensive downloading & e-mailing of already digitized texts but also extensive digitizing, mainly as a labour of love. Luckily, scanners have become cheap & efficient & division of labour for large jobs is an ancient invention.

WHO?

Anyone interested in contributing libertarian Mbs, keyboarding, scanning, proof-reading, editing & computer skills & copyrights permissions. CD-ROMs, like microfiche & floppies, are essentially self-help media but do mostly need collaborators to fill them. With cheap, lasting, powerful & efficient alternative media anyone can be a publisher, editor & compiler.

HOW?

By keyboarding, scanning, downloading, alone or in association with others. Sending Kbs & Mbs on floppies, partly filled CD-ROMs or via e-mail - to the compilers of CD-ROMs.

By dividing the chores of e.g. digitizing whole books into manageable portions between those who like a particular book.

By collaborating with & publicizing all who have already taken steps in this direction. See the slowly growing list of interested people.

WHY?

Because it is possible now, affordable, & achievable by enough interested people.

We could use all our resources at our fingertips. We have never had them yet. On CD-ROMs they could be made cheaply & conveniently accessible & linked to current websites. In combination they could be rather useful. Sufficient knowledge could give us considerable influence.

Climbing the mountains of liberty knowledge would not only provide us with a great view but also realistic blueprints, the best programs, strategies, tactics, advice, refutations & references. Remaining disagreements would come closer to being settled. All valuable ideas, discoveries, talents & opportunities could be brought to light & made widely accessible. The Internet can do much but not yet everything or optimally.

WHEN?

As soon as the growing list of interested people contains enough libertarian Mbs to fill the first libertarian & cooperatively compiled CD-ROM.

PRECEDENTS, DEMONSTRATIONS, EXAMPLES:

Few will be as productive with this medium as Dr. David Hart has already been, who produced 4 CD-ROMs on his own, mainly on classical French Liberalism.

Compare Encyclopaedia Britannica & The Library of the Future, each on one CD-ROM. The latter contains over 5,000 titles, not all book-sized, but includes some freedom texts.

There are thousands of music, games & software CD-ROMs.

It's high time for more libertarians to use of this freedom of expression & information opportunity, at least for freedom texts not yet otherwise available.

PIOT, John Zube, 3rd of October 2001.

(PIOT: Panarchy In Our Time or: To each the government or non-governmental society of his or her dreams!)

CONTACTS:

John Zube, LIBERTARIAN MICROFICHE PUBLISHING, since 1977, Libertarian PEACE PLANS series since 1964: www.acenet.com.au/~jzube Supplementary LMP list: http://www.butterbach.net jzube@acenet.com.au

Also: Research Centre for Monetary Freedom, On Panarchy, Slogans for Liberty. 1768 PEACE PLANS issues so far (June 2002) ca. 500,000 pages.

John Humphreys, LIBERTARIAN LIBRARY: www.geocities.com/libertarian_library/

AUSTRALIAN LIBERTARIAN SOCIETY: www.geocities.com/libertarian_society

libertarian_aust1@yahoo.com Also: ALS e-Newsletter & ALS Forum - Alas, apart from his initial website, on his version of the project, John Humphreys, due to other commitments, has been inactive in this sphere and I do not not when he will be active in it again. - J.Z., 29.6.02.

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