From: "John Zube" To: "Rob Kautz" Subject: Free banking & monetary freedom writings, on microfiche & CD-ROMs, your webstie The Future of Money. Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 20:53:54 +1100 Organization: Libertarian Microfiche Publishing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01C067A2.4D9A61E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C067A2.4D9A61E0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0010_01C067A2.4D9A61E0" ------=_NextPart_001_0010_01C067A2.4D9A61E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable John Zube, LIBERTARIAN MICROFICHE PUBLISHING & RESEARCH CENTRE FOR MONETARY & FINANCIAL FREEDOM, producing the=20 PEACE PLANS series, since 1964, since 1977 almost exclusively on = microfiche. Website: www.acenet.com.au/~jzube Its ca. 2,000 pages, or almost 5 Mbs = are a guide to ca. 500,000 pages offered by LMP in its PEACE PLANS = series & it includes 6 essays, 2 of them on monetary freedom. Dear Mr Kautz, On monetary freedom my series offers probably more titles and pages than = any other publisher has ever before offered on any medium, and this more = cheaply and permanently as well. I do also assert that it offers some of the most advanced writings on = this subject, although they go back to the thirties, some of them in = several languages. The response has been very small. As a rule, most of = these references remain ignored, except those written by academics, who = since 1974 rediscovered part of that freedom - and went on to ignore = most of their predecessors. Even Hayek greatly misunderstood a monetary = freedom writer like Prof. Heinrich Rittershausen and called him an = inflationist!. That's like calling a libertarian a totalitarian!=20 For most of his professional life Rittershausen resisted the monetary = despotism that leads to inflation and he did make detailed = counter-proposals. However, publishers for such works were hard to find. = In post world war he could only sell studies of the central banking = system and the discount policy, in which he tried to teach how some of = the worst mistakes of that system and policy could be avoided, given = that we are not free to opt out from under it. His lifelong friend, = Ulrich von Beckerath, my mentor, did explore the monetary revolution = alternatives from about 1908 to his death in 1969. I have still to = microfilm another large batch of these and related freedom writings, = mostly in form of letters and short papers, apart from his three = classical books on this subject. About 11 years ago I compiled what was then the largest bibliography on = the subject - but since then have not yet got around to extend it = further. In 1990 a U.S. contact placed it on the Internet. Response: = Zero. I have it on disk, and could convert it to Word or ASCII or plain = or rtf text and send it by e-mail attachment, if you are interested, or = in its microfiche edition. It came to about 124 pages but was not = formalized but merely in form of an alphabetized list towards a complete = bibliography on the subject, inviting collaboration, because many of the = texts were and are still not accessible to me. In 1990/91 I spent most of a year visiting various libertarians, = bookshops and libraries in the U.S., in 1990/91, making numerous = photocopies and buying many books, enough to fill over 150 book parcels, = - but only one libertarian, working at the research institute in Great = Barrington, was interested enough in this free banking bibiliography to = bother making himself a copy! My series aims to reproduce as many such titles as possible but they are = hard to obtain. For instance, for most of his life Ulrich von Beckerath = was trying to obtain all volumes of the journal SOUND CURRENCY. He = managed to get only one. After his death, all issues, except one monthly = copy, were microfilmed and sold in this form rather cheaply. I am also working towards an alphabetized handbook on monetary freedom = options, practices, experiences, terms and the numerous errors, = prejudices and myths on the subject. I got this set and still only two = of the annual compilations of this journal, and this in photocopies. Naturallly, I would also like to see as much of this material as = possible placed online and published, in combination, on one or several = CD-ROMs. See the attachment on the CD-ROM project. The only entry on my own efforts that I found so far, today, in the = freemarket-net pages, seemed to be merely an appeal for help with my = microfiching efforts. It did neither point out my website nor did it = indicated the quantity of libertarian material that I do already offer, = very cheaply, to others, for the last 23 years. Has any other single = libertarian published more, more permanently and more cheaply? And yet = my microfiching are merely a pilot scheme to demonstrate to other = libertarians what they could do with this medium, in easy, cheap, = lasting and already rather powerful self-publishing, of their own = writings and that of many others, although not as cheaply as that on = CD-ROMs can be. I have long estimated that a mere 100 - 300 libertarian microfichers, as = active as I have been, could, between them, provide complete, permanent = and cheap libertarian publishing. That cry for help notice did not = indicate that possibility. Several other libertarians managed to misunderstand my literature for = sale list as a mere bibliography, because they are not accustomed to a = small publisher offering as many titles. PIOT, John Zube. (Panarchy In Our Time or: To each the government or non-governmental = society of his or her dreams!P=20 P.S.: Full monetary freedom would mean panarchism applied in this = sphere, with not a single exchange medium or value standard imposed - = in general circulation - but all of them being of compulsory acceptance = and compulsory value, ast their stated face value, towards the issuers = or the issuing associations, and private contractors obliging themselves = to so accept them, which would mainly mean the debtors of issuing = centres, who could readily pay their debts with them to the issuing = centre. That means, full tolerance for tolerant actions or experimental = freedom in this sphere for voluntary payment, clearing and value = standard communities. Also the right to refuse to accept an exchange = medium and a value standard that one has not contracted to accept - or = to discount them freely, in a free market for exchange media and value = standards. Probably no one has as yet formulated monetary rights and liberties more = accurately and extensively than Ulrich von Beckerath has. See his = writings in my series. Most e-currency advocates imagine that they could freely, extensively = and long enough - apart from some underground transactions - operate = under the prevailing monetary despotism or that just speedier electronic = transfers and other dealings with forced and exclusive governmental = currencies or transfers of certified claims for gold metal and free gold = coinage would be all that would be needed. They ignore the other side of = the free banking debate, that has beein going on for about 200 years. The French revolutionary government, 1789ff, imposed the death penalty = upon monetary freedom actions, and so did the Soviet Regime. In = demoncratic and "free" Australia the official penalty is $ 20,000 for = every day that this "offence" is continuted. Most monetary freedom experimenters engage in their experiments in = blissful ignorance of the legislation and jurisdiction on the subjet, = worse still, they do repeat many of the wrongs and mistakes of forced = and exclusive currencies. - J.Z. ------=_NextPart_001_0010_01C067A2.4D9A61E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
John Zube, LIBERTARIAN MICROFICHE PUBLISHING=20 &
RESEARCH CENTRE FOR MONETARY & FINANCIAL = FREEDOM,=20 producing the
PEACE PLANS series, since 1964, since 1977 almost = exclusively=20 on microfiche.
Website: www.acenet.com.au/~jzube&nbs= p; Its=20 ca. 2,000 pages, or almost 5 Mbs are a guide to ca. 500,000 pages = offered by LMP=20 in its PEACE PLANS series & it includes 6 essays, 2 of them on = monetary=20 freedom.
 
Dear Mr Kautz,
 
On monetary freedom my series offers probably = more titles=20 and pages than any other publisher has ever before offered on any = medium, and=20 this more cheaply and permanently as well.
I do also assert that it offers some of the most = advanced=20 writings on this subject, although they go back to the thirties, some of = them in=20 several languages. The response has been very small. As a rule, most of = these=20 references remain ignored, except those written by academics, who = since=20 1974 rediscovered part of that freedom - and went on to ignore most of = their=20 predecessors. Even Hayek greatly misunderstood a monetary freedom writer = like=20 Prof. Heinrich Rittershausen and called him an inflationist!. That's = like=20 calling a libertarian a totalitarian!
For most of his professional life Rittershausen = resisted the=20 monetary despotism that leads to inflation and he did make detailed=20 counter-proposals. However, publishers for such works were hard to find. = In post=20 world war he could only sell studies of the central banking system and = the=20 discount policy, in which he tried to teach how some of the worst = mistakes of=20 that system and policy could be avoided, given that we are not free to = opt out=20 from under it. His lifelong friend, Ulrich von Beckerath, my mentor, did = explore=20 the monetary revolution alternatives from about 1908 to his death in = 1969. I=20 have still to microfilm another large batch of these and related freedom = writings, mostly in form of letters and short papers, apart from his = three=20 classical books on this subject.
 
About 11 years ago I compiled what was then the = largest=20 bibliography on the subject - but since then have not yet got around to = extend=20 it further. In 1990 a U.S. contact placed it on the Internet. Response: = Zero. I=20 have it on disk, and could convert it to Word or ASCII or plain or rtf = text and=20 send it by e-mail attachment, if you are interested, or in its = microfiche=20 edition. It came to about 124 pages but was not formalized but merely in = form of=20 an alphabetized list towards a complete bibliography on the subject, = inviting=20 collaboration, because many of the texts were and are still not = accessible to=20 me.
 
In 1990/91 I spent most of a year visiting = various=20 libertarians, bookshops and libraries in the U.S., in 1990/91, = making=20 numerous photocopies and buying many books, enough to fill over 150 = book=20 parcels,  - but only one libertarian, working at the research = institute in=20 Great Barrington, was interested enough in this free banking = bibiliography to=20 bother making himself a copy!
 
My series aims to reproduce as many such titles as = possible=20 but they are hard to obtain. For instance, for most of his life Ulrich = von=20 Beckerath was trying to obtain all volumes of the journal SOUND = CURRENCY. He=20 managed to get only one. After his death, all issues, except one monthly = copy,=20 were microfilmed and sold in this form rather cheaply.
 
I am also working towards an alphabetized handbook = on monetary=20 freedom options, practices, experiences, terms and the numerous errors,=20 prejudices and myths on the subject. I got this set and still only two = of the=20 annual compilations of this journal, and this in = photocopies.
 
Naturallly, I would also like to see as much of this = material=20 as possible placed online and published, in combination, on one or = several=20 CD-ROMs. See the attachment on the CD-ROM project.
 
The only entry on my own efforts that I found so = far, today,=20 in the freemarket-net pages, seemed to be merely an appeal for help with = my=20 microfiching efforts. It did neither point out my website nor did=20 it indicated the quantity of libertarian material that I do already = offer,=20 very cheaply, to others, for the last 23 years. Has any other single = libertarian=20 published more, more permanently and more cheaply? And yet my = microfiching are=20 merely a pilot scheme to demonstrate to other libertarians what they = could do=20 with this medium, in easy, cheap, lasting and already rather powerful=20 self-publishing, of their own writings and that of many others, although = not as=20 cheaply as that on CD-ROMs can be.
 
I have long estimated that a mere 100 - 300 = libertarian=20 microfichers, as active as I have been, could, between them, provide = complete,=20 permanent and cheap libertarian publishing. That cry for help notice did = not=20 indicate that possibility.
 
Several other libertarians managed to misunderstand = my=20 literature for sale list as a mere bibliography, because they are not = accustomed=20 to a small publisher offering as many titles.
 
PIOT, John Zube.
(Panarchy In Our Time or: To each the government or=20 non-governmental society of his or her dreams!P 
 
P.S.:  Full monetary freedom would mean = panarchism=20 applied in this sphere, with not a single exchange medium or value = standard=20 imposed  - in general circulation - but all of them being of=20 compulsory acceptance and compulsory value, ast their stated face value, =  towards the issuers or the issuing associations, and private = contractors=20 obliging themselves to so accept them, which would mainly mean the = debtors of=20 issuing centres, who could readily pay their debts with them to the = issuing=20 centre. That means, full tolerance for tolerant actions or experimental = freedom=20 in this sphere for voluntary payment, clearing and value standard=20 communities. Also the right to refuse to accept an exchange medium and a = value=20 standard that one has not contracted to accept - or to discount them = freely, in=20 a free market for exchange media and value standards.
 
Probably no one has as yet formulated monetary = rights and=20 liberties more accurately and extensively than Ulrich von Beckerath has. = See his=20 writings in my series.
 
Most e-currency advocates imagine that they could = freely,=20 extensively and long enough - apart from some underground = transactions -=20  operate under the prevailing monetary despotism or that just = speedier=20 electronic transfers and other dealings with forced and exclusive = governmental=20 currencies or transfers of certified claims for gold metal and = free gold=20 coinage would be all that would be needed. They ignore the other side of = the=20 free banking debate, that has beein going on for about 200 = years.
The French revolutionary government, 1789ff, = imposed the=20 death penalty upon monetary freedom actions, and so did the Soviet=20 Regime. In demoncratic and "free" Australia the official penalty is = $=20 20,000 for every day that this "offence" is continuted.
Most monetary freedom experimenters engage in their=20 experiments in blissful ignorance of the legislation and jurisdiction on = the=20 subjet, worse still, they do repeat many of the wrongs and = mistakes of=20 forced and exclusive currencies.  -=20 J.Z.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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COPY & DISTRIBUTE FREELY! \par }\pard\plain \qj\ri-257\nowidctlpar\widctlpar\adjustright = \fs20\lang2057\cgrid {\f2\lang1033 Version of 10 December 2000 \par With these alternative media almost everyone could become a freedom = publisher \par for many long texts. \par }\pard\plain = \s3\qj\sb240\sa60\keepn\nowidctlpar\widctlpar\outlinelevel2\adjustright = \f1\cgrid {A longer version, with alphabetized entries, 38 pages, is = available upon request by e-mail. \par WARNING: \par }\pard\plain \qj\nowidctlpar\widctlpar\adjustright = \fs20\lang2057\cgrid { \par This information is not for the faint-hearted, short-sighted and = custom-ridden, who just want to compile, send, publish, read, download = and receive a few pages of freedom information. The Internet and its we bsite and e-mail options are already ideal, cheap and fast enough for = that - and SOME longer texts. But for those, who do want to produce, = distribute and consume freedom information in very large "bites", not = only single articles or books but, instead, wh o le collections of specialized freedom writings, even advancing towards a = complete freedom library, then, I am sorry to say that even if they = could already find and access it there, at present or near future = electronic speeds, and costs, their Internet c o nnection is not yet all that it is widely believed to be. As a matter of = fact, compared with the CD-ROM option, the downloading option for as = large quantities of freedom information, turn out to be snail mail = options and the supposedly already outdated CD -ROMs are the fast, cheap and efficient runners. Sounds unbelievable and = quite wrong but it is true, nevertheless. See the attached estimates. \par=20 \par Secondly: This is not a 007 solution to a problem but one that = requires voluntary, peaceful, intelligent and inte rnational collaboration, probably among thousands of above average = libertarians, each retaining his independence and pursuing his special = interests within that collaboration. Can that be achieved? Progress with = the attached list of those interested has so far been very slow. Even great minds are not easily opened to the = potentials of large projects. They tend to rather tackle what they can = do quite on their own. \par It is up to you to speed the growth of the attached connection list = up, so that the combined off ers of libertarian Mbs and CD-ROM editing talents can soon come = chain-react, producing finally many specialized libertarian reference = libraries on single CD-ROMs and ultimately a complete libertarian = library on an estimated 300 very cheap CD-ROMs, possibl y only 30 CVDs and in future, maybe, only on one or two further advanced = disks. \par=20 \par The rest is largely up to YOU. I am prepared only to provide upon = request the latest version of a list of people interested in this = project. There can take it from there, betwe en them but I do hope that they will keep me informed or will establish = and run this contacts list e.g. on a website, with the option for = additional entries at any time. For such purposes the Internet is quite = convenient. \par = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D \par=20 \par }\pard \qj\ri-257\nowidctlpar\widctlpar\adjustright {\f2\lang1033=20 Most likely you, too, have always ignored your libertarian publishing = options on microfiche and floppy disk and may continue to do so. But at = least do not make the same mistake with your CD- ROM freedom of expression and information options, especially for any = freedom manuscripts, books or other long text compilations, of some = lasting value, that you do want to put or keep in "print" cheaply, = easily and permanently, for yourself and other fre edom lovers.=20 \par=20 \par Anyone in somewhat developed countries can afford these options.=20 \par=20 \par While anyone, on his own, can fill a cheap microfiche, with 98 - = 1350 pages, 24x - 48x reduced, with a duplicate down to A 28 cents or a = floppy disk with 1.4 MB, each down to=20 A 32 cents, and anyone can afford a CD-ROM, now produced for as little = as 50 cents. But to FILL a single CD-ROM with 650 MBs, or the equivalent = of about 500 books, that is, to provide a whole small freedom library in = this as cheap and powerful format, wou l d require, mostly, some collaboration. The individual output of = libertarian Dr. David Hart on 4 CD-ROMs is quite exceptional. If you are = interested I send you as an attachment his letter bringing some details. = He has also already on hand over 2 Gbs of fur ther libertarian information to be so offered in the future. With a few = more like him we reach the target fast. But so far he stands as a lone = pioneer in that field. \par=20 \par Please help to fill, cooperatively, another one or several = libertarian CD-ROM, preferably=20 with text-only Mbs, to enable us to include as many texts as possible in = a single disk, and then to offer its duplicates for sale, for A $ 5 - = 50, i.e., up to 500 books on a CD-ROM for the price of one or two books = in print on paper.=20 \par=20 \par Initially just let m e know how many Mbs you can offer to this project and whether you are = one of those able to assemble 650 Mbs efficiently and conveniently on = one CD-ROM. All such offers to be listed - until the listed persons and = their Mbs and talents and interests come to almost automatically interact productively, in this direction, like a = telephone book does for more general purposes or business interests. \par Do not send me your Mbs but just information on how many you are = prepared to offer. \par=20 \par Personally I prefer those offered without copyrights claims. But, = like on music, software and games disks, copyrights claims can be made = on libertarian CD-ROMs as well as they are made on downloadable = websites. \par=20 \par Should we rather leave most libertarian writings unpublished, not = translated or out-of-print than resorting to as affordable, easy, = efficient and lasting alternative media for them? \par So far and for too many years, most libertarians have largely = neglected several of their alternative media options for the cheap, easy = and lasting pro vision of long libertarian texts, e.g. floppies and microfiche. Will = they fail again with CD-ROMs, not to speak of CVDs? I hope not! \par=20 \par How much more economical do you want libertarian publishing and = reading opportunities to become before you make extensive use of them? \par My production costs for a duplicated page on one of my microfiche = are sometimes already down to 0.03 cents. On CD-ROMs, produced in some = quantities for as little as A $ 50 cents, they could be even lower = still. (Those with a "burner" can slowl y duplicate some CD-ROMs themselves, with blanks now retailed for as = little as A $ 1 by retailers, in 10-packs.) \par=20 \par Are libertarians ready and willing to realize such economics for = themselves? Or do they want to wait for more years or decades until = prices for libertarian pages are still closer to zero than they are now, = on some future alternative media? \par=20 \par Once the first few and text only libertarian CD-ROM are out and = successful, then, most likely, many others will follow this lead. = Perhaps as few as 300 text- only CD-ROMs could already publish and keep in print ALL libertarian = writings, a rather desirable production which print on paper hasn't = managed to achieve in 500 years and the Internet not in its decades.=20 \par=20 \par Who knows how many libertarian books etc. were ever written and are = still preserved somewhere? A complete bibliography does still not exist = - or hasn't been published yet. Those on the Internet are still woefully = short. \par=20 \par Via shared labour in keyboarding and scanning, collaborators might = digitize many mo re freedom texts than are now offered on the IN and could also offer = them on CD-ROMs, until finally all freedom texts are thus available or = on floppies, microfiche or on other easy cheap and affordable media. \par=20 \par The Internet offers so far all too few freedom books. The largest = such offer, copyrighted, may be that of over 2,000 German anarchists = texts, offered on line by DadA-Literatur, }{\field\flddirty{\*\fldinst = {\f2\lang1033=20 HYPERLINK "mailto:dada-koeln@iname.com" }{\f2\lang1033 {\*\datafield=20 00d0c9ea79f9bace118c8200aa004ba90b020000001700000015000000640061006400610= 02d006b006f0065006c006e00400069006e0061006d0065002e0063006f006d000000e0c9= ea79f9bace118c8200aa004ba90b380000006d00610069006c0074006f003a00640061006= 40061002d006b006f0065006c006e004000 69006e0061006d0065002e0063006f006d000000000000000000280aa00000400000361b1= 1003f0032}}}{\fldrslt {\cs15\ul\cf2 dada-koeln@iname.com}}}{\f2\lang1033 = Some others offer smaller batches or intend to do so. \par On microfilm many more are already available. I estimate about = 10,000, but they are nowhere listed together as such offers. My own = lists of such offers are still very incomplete. \par Floppies can provide one or two small books almost as cheaply as = microfiche can but they do not last as long and do not mail as easily = and cheaply. On the other hand, their contents can be fast and cheaply = transmitted via e-mail attachments. \par=20 \par Later on the adherents and opponents of copyrights might come to = offer their own CD-ROM compilations of freedom texts and e.g. = Propertarians and Left Anarchists, likewise, might want to produce their = own. \par But the first one that is cooperatively produced could or should = cover, as far as possible, the whole freedom spectrum. \par=20 \par Music, games and software lovers have filled ten-thousands of CD-ROMs with their preferences. = Libertarians, to their shame, have left this opportunity largely unused, = apart from some multimedia CDs by Noam Chomsky, which in this format = could offer only a few of his writings and l ectures, and the quite outstanding recent offer by Dr. David Hart, of 4 = libertarian CD-ROMs, offering mainly classical liberal texts. \par=20 \par Do you know of any other single and text only libertarian or = anarchist CD-ROM on the market? \par Many texts for this can alrea dy be downloaded from the Internet or from private digitized files = transmitted as e-mail attachments, between people all over the world, = who might never meet in person but can thus easily and fast cooperate to = produce libertarian texts on CD-ROMs. But e-m ails are limited to at most 1 Mb batches I have learned recently. \par=20 \par For 30 days, in October/November 2,000, I had to use up 100 hours = of internet connection with my service provider or forfeit them. With = some effort I managed to do that, at ten times the ave rage Australian usage rate, downloading libertarian sites, as fast as I = could with my system, not reading them at all but just glancing at them = and mechanically using the menu for downloading. That was so mind and = body numbing that I could manage it only=20 in short sessions, a few hours at a time. The result, including some = duplication, was ca. 14,000 files in 157 Mbs.=20 \par In other words, if I could there obtain and had tried to download = 650 Mbs (Who knows how many are already offered there?, then it would = have taken me about 400 hours! \par Can that be considered an easy and cheap job, compared with the = CD-ROM option? Living in the country, my connection costs me about $ A 3 = per hour. Thus downloading the contents of a CD-ROM would have cost me = about $ 1,200! Think t hat experience over, with all its implications, applying your own = figures! \par=20 \par In various installments thousands of other libertarians use much = downloading time and spend much in connection charges. What a waste of = time, energy and money, as far as unchanging long text compilations are concerned, when a few libertarians could do = the job for all - and sell the result, better combined, relatively safe = from bugs and flaws and broken links developing on the web. (I am not = yet certain whether the different technol ogy used for "burning" - in texts onto CD-ROM makes disks already = burned-in stable and protected enough against all "bug" and "virus" = attacks. Please share your knowledge on this with me. \par=20 \par The Internet is O.K. for news, a few pages and many other things = but not e.g. for ALL libertarian BOOKS. So far it offers only a fraction of = them and only few sets of libertarian periodicals and series. The = latter, too, are unchanging and could be much more easily and = economically offered on CD-ROM. Moreover, as I want to stress again and again, downloading costs and labours for long texts = are not negligible. \par=20 \par How many pages or Mbs of libertarian material are by now on the = Internet? Nobody seems to know or was willing to tell me. \par=20 \par How many pages are already digitized in manuscripts but still stuck = in private computer systems, instead of being offered on the supposedly = existing free market for ideas? \par=20 \par How many have been all too long out of print or have never been = translated into other major languages? \par=20 \par Easy cheap and lasting publishing in alternative media could bring = all remaining freedom texts to light.=20 \par What could we not achieve once all freedom knowledge is easily = accessible to us? \par=20 \par If you find this short description of the libertarian CD-ROM = project not yet convincing enough, then ask to be sent, by e-mail = attachment, a longer description, a kind of alphabetized FAQ, on 38 = pages. That one is under revision, too. \par=20 \par But if your own thinking or these notes have already convinced you = of the usefulness of the CD-ROM option for=20 publishing libertarian texts, then please do estimate the number of = libertarian MBs that you could offer to this project. Do not send these = MBs now and to me. But do indicate their special kind and also whether = you are able and willing to do some of the w o rk of compiling and editing the first libertarian text-only CD-ROM, once = offers of 650 libertarian MBs, or more, have been received. While I = would be willing to keep a list of all such offers, as long as is = necessary to start the first text-only libertari an CD-ROM edition, I'm not yet skilled enough and may never be and would = gladly pass on the job and the list of those who have so far shown an = interest in this project.=20 \par =20 \par }{\f1\fs24 TWO SMALL PRIZES OFFERS BY LMP}{\f2\cf1\lang1033 :=20 \par }\pard \qj\ri-257\sb120\sa120\nowidctlpar\widctlpar\adjustright = {\f2\cf1\lang1033 100 libertarian microfiche - your choice from=20 the LMP literature list on the Web, are offered to the first one who = provides me with a tabulation of all or most of the publishing = advantages that all the alternative media have to offer, e.g. in costs = per page reproduced, for texts of 10, 100 and 1000 p a ges. It should be a comprehensive benchmark test, excluding no = alternative media and indicating their strengths as well as their = weaknesses. Ignorance on alternative media option is still all too = large. The Internet has not yet significantly reduced it bu t rather added another media bias, that in favour of the Internet! \par }\pard \qj\ri-285\nowidctlpar\widctlpar\adjustright = {\f2\cf1\lang1033=20 Another 100 libertarian microfiche - your choice from the LMP literature = list (see my website), are offered to the first who proves to me that = any other person has already offered more freed om pages, more cheaply and permanently than I have, in my LMP pilot = scheme, ca 500,000 pages on microfiche. I would love to help a bit to = make that other collection better known as well. Moreover, it would help = me avoid titles that are already offered by=20 others. \par = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D \par }\pard \qj\ri-257\sb120\sa120\nowidctlpar\widctlpar\adjustright = {\f2\cf1\lang1033 LMP: LIBERTARIAN MICROFICHE PUBLISHING, WANTS = COMPETITORS & COOPERATORS: I have been putting libertarian texts onto = microfiche since 1977 and will continue to=20 do so for at least another 5 years or when I reach PEACE PLANS issue = 2,000. But I am not a microfilm fanatic. I do actively seek libertarians = prepared to compete and collaborate with me, using e.g. microfiche, = floppies and CD-ROMs, towards the common aim=20 of making ALL freedom writings (that need publicity to achieve their = purpose) available to all, in all major languages, cheaply, easily and = permanently.=20 \par Towards a super-nova explosion of all freedom information! We can't = make all people read, study and apply it - but enough people will find = it useful to advance towards their self-liberation! =20 \par }\pard\plain = \s3\qj\sb240\sa60\keepn\nowidctlpar\widctlpar\outlinelevel2\adjustright = \f1\cgrid {LABOUR COSTS FOR EXTENSIVE DOWNLOADING: \par }\pard\plain \s19\qj\nowidctlpar\widctlpar\adjustright = \f2\fs20\lang2057\cgrid { \par From my recent 100 hour downloading spurt of libertarian sites on = the Internet, I gained about 157 Mbs, mostly in html=20 format. From this I concluded that had I downloaded 650 Mbs it would = have cost me about 4 times as much labour, i.e. 400 hours, with my = system and current programs and connections (Pentium II 450 Mhz, 56 K = connection, 128 Mb RAM.),not the top ones.=20 \par If I h ad downloaded only in text format, then the downloading part would have = gone faster but I would have had to push more buttons and find and = download many more sites to reach 157 Mbs, since that would have = excluded many Mbs for illustrations etc. So for the time being and in spite of aiming at a text-only comprehensive = libertarian library on CD-ROMs, I go on with this estimate based mainly = on downloading html files. \par=20 \par If a complete freedom library did already exist on the Internet, = for complete or part downloa ding, and if it came to the equivalent of 300 CD-ROMs with 650 Mbs each, = then with my system I would thus have needed 300 x 400 hours, i.e. = 120,000 hours to download the lot. Divided by 24 hours this would come = to 5000 days, these divided by 365 days, to=20 almost 14 years of continuous labour, working day and night without = stop, if I were capable of that. \par Obviously, since I do not love this kind of labour (a still longer = "sentence" if I introduced an 8 hour day and 5 hour week here, for me a = life sentence) I=20 would obviously prefer to receive the lot within 10 days on 300 CD-ROMs = by "snail mail" even if that would cost me $ 3,000.=20 \par=20 \par Calling the post office competition for such information parcels = "snail mail" is, in this connection almost a joke upon the Internet = option, seeing the slowness here revealed by the supposedly highest and = fastest technology. \par=20 \par Indeed, in the future access may be much faster but this electronic = "snail" would have to speed up very much from its current best to catch = the CD-ROM "hare" th at would reach me now in 10 days rather than 3x14 years =3D 42 years of = its "high technology" connection run, at present speeds, if a 7 day = labour week of 8 hours daily were introduced to convey this information = to me online.=20 \par=20 \par Admittedly, much of the downlo ading labour from an already complete freedom library on line, would be = automated machine labour. I would just have to wait, patiently, = currently for a mere 14 - 42 years, for it to finish the job for me. And = all others, wanting to go this supposedly fast and convenient way, for all that information, would also have to wait = that long.=20 \par=20 \par Well, you might say: We have already all too patiently waited for = all of liberty to be presented to us on a platter (if only it is not = offered on CD-ROM platters!) for thousands of years, so why should we = not be patient for another mere 14 - 42? \par=20 \par The advice: Go online and use online for libertarian literature, = for access to all of it, would subject all libertarians to as extensive = labours, or waiting periods, not only me. It=20 would not even try to add up the total number of labour years then = involved.=20 \par Mind you, this estimate does not include the maintenance labour of = webmasters for keeping all this information correctly online. \par=20 \par I am well aware that few libertarians would want as much = information downloaded at a time nor could anyone possibly read all of = it unless he becomes an immortal. He has my best wishes for both = options. \par=20 \par So they will make their selections. But still, they would have to = invest proportionate labours for th e information they want. And each of them would have to do so, instead = of just ordering the full set of libertarian literature on 300 CD-ROMs, = if that were already made possible. \par Have they got no better use for their time? \par }\pard\plain = \s3\qj\sb240\sa60\keepn\nowidctlpar\widctlpar\outlinelevel2\adjustright = \f1\cgrid {CONNECTION COSTS FOR EXTENSIVE DOWNLOADING:=20 \par }\pard\plain \qj\nowidctlpar\widctlpar\adjustright = \fs20\lang2057\cgrid { \par }\pard\plain \s19\qj\nowidctlpar\widctlpar\adjustright = \f2\fs20\lang2057\cgrid { Regarding the costs involved in downloading a complete libertarian = library from the Internet, if it were already offered there: My 400 = hours of downloading, that I would currently need, with my system and = connection speed with a 56 modem, woul d cost me ca. $ 1,200 to fill one 650 Mbs CD-ROM. Not counting the = number of local telephone calls to my provider, when on line to him, and = their costs. Thus for the assumed total freedom library online and at my = current connection costs, my costs would c ome to ca. $ 1,200 x 300 =3D A $ 360,000, if that library, of that size = (equivalent to 300 CD-ROMs) were already provided there, or = correspondingly less for the fractions of freedom literature knowledge = one wants from it and can get from it already.=20 \par=20 \par Admitte dly, many libertarians get cheaper and faster connections. And they can = work faster, too. But the costs for as much online information are still = rather high with most present and near future PC systems and = connections. And they would add up not only for m e but for all other fans of "high technology" downloading options. \par Aren't 300 CD-ROMs, at e.g. $ 10 each, a total of $ 3,000, a real = bargain in comparison, even if one had to wait 10 days for their = delivery? \par By all means, make your own estimates. Accept nothing on faith. Not = even the technology that calls itself "high technology" \par I do admit, electronic connections are very nice, cheap, accurate = and fast enough, already now, if one just wants to convey a few pages = and up to 1 Mb via e-mail (Some service, providers limit you to 8Kbs!) = or uploading to or downloading from a website. But again, compare it with a cheap CD-ROM = of 650 Mbs. If you wanted to send its contents by e-mail, you would = require at least 650 separate e-mailings. And the total would have to be = first subdivided and then assembled again.=20 That, again, involves additional labours. \par }\pard\plain = \qj\ri-257\nowidctlpar\widctlpar\tx4678\tx6379\tx7655\adjustright = \fs20\lang2057\cgrid {\lang1033=20 \par HIGH TECHNOLOGY, IN ITS ONLINE OPTIONS, IS NOT AS HIGH, HIGHLY = DEVELOPED, SPEEDY , EASY AND CHEAP AS IT IS GENERALLY BELIEVED TO BE.=20 \par FREEDOM MIGHT COME TO YOU RATHER ON SMALL AND CHEAP DISKS, FAST = ENOUGH! \par=20 \par }\pard \qj\ri-257\nowidctlpar\widctlpar\adjustright {\f2\lang1033 = PIOT (Panarchy In Our Time or: To each the government or = non-governmental =20 \par society of his or her dreams!), John Zube, 10 = December 2,00. \par=20 \par = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D \par LIBERTARIAN MICROFICHE PUBLISHING, c/o John Zube, P.O. Box 52, = Berrima, N.S.W. 2577, Australia, }{\field\flddirty{\*\fldinst = {\f2\lang1033 HYPERLINK mailto:jzube@acenet.com.au }{\f2\lang1033 = {\*\datafield=20 00d0c9ea79f9bace118c8200aa004ba90b0200000017000000140000006a007a007500620= 0650040006100630065006e00650074002e0063006f006d002e00610075000000e0c9ea79= f9bace118c8200aa004ba90b360000006d00610069006c0074006f003a006a007a0075006= 200650040006100630065006e0065007400 2e0063006f006d002e0061007500000000000000000000000000006600000000000000000= 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000= 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000= 00000000000000000000000}}}{\fldrslt=20 {\cs15\f2\ul\cf2 jzube@acenet.com.au}}}{\f2\lang1033 Tel.: (02) 48 771 = 436. No Fax! \par }{\lang1033=20 \par }\pard = \qj\ri-257\nowidctlpar\widctlpar\tx4678\tx6379\tx7655\adjustright = {\lang1033 LMP offers the PEACE PLANS, series, since 1964, issues 1 - = 1659 on 1659 mi crofiche. Details on the texts offered in PEACE PLANS 1-1545, by author = or periodical title, are on the website: }{\field\flddirty{\*\fldinst = {\lang1033 HYPERLINK http://www.acenet.com.au/~jzube }{\lang1033 = {\*\datafield=20 00d0c9ea79f9bace118c8200aa004ba90b0200000017000000190000007700770077002e0= 06100630065006e00650074002e0063006f006d002e00610075002f007e006a007a007500= 620065000000e0c9ea79f9bace118c8200aa004ba90b4000000068007400740070003a002= f002f007700770077002e00610063006500 6e00650074002e0063006f006d002e00610075002f007e006a007a0075006200650000000= 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000= 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000= 00000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000}}}{\fldrslt {\cs15\f2\ul\cf2 = www.acenet.com.au/~jzube}}}{\lang1033 , together with 2 introductions = to microfilming, 2 to panarchism and 2=20 to monetary freedom. Together almost 5 Mbs or 2,000 pages are offered = there, mainly as a guide to the ca. 500,000 pages that LMP has to offer = on microfiche. The supplementary listing for PP 1546-1620 was on a = website in Hamburg, which recently crashed, du e to a virus attack and has not yet been restored or put up anywhere = else. Are there any other temporary or permanent hosts for it, of for my = combined listing, to PEACE PLANS 1659, at present, when I finally = assemble and integrate it? My present service pr ovider limits my website to 5 Mbs, so I can at most add still an = intended links list. \par=20 \par }} ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C067A2.4D9A61E0--