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Visit our websites often for <--- ----> the latest seminars and resources! <------------------ ----> http://www.offshorearnings.com <------------------ ----> http://www.destiny-worldwide.net <----------------- --<>-- --<<<+>>>-- --<>-- - The famous psychologist William James=20 once said, =93The deepest principle in human=20 nature is the craving to be appreciated.=94=20 -- Destiny Worldwide Associates appreciates each and every member! ------------------ =20 > -----Original Message----- > From: lsn@mail.overthrow.com [mailto:lsn@mail.overthrow.com]=20 > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 2:28 PM > To: rcg@destiny-worldwide.net > Subject: US Government Bankrupt And Cannot Recover, New=20 > Report Indicates :Another Reason To Dump Your Worthless=20 > Dollars ; Houston Chronicle >=20 >=20 > US Government Bankrupt And Cannot Recover, New Report=20 > Indicates Another Reason To Dump Your Worthless Dollars >=20 > 6/2/03 4:27:50 PM > Houston Chronicle >=20 > Houston, Texas -- http://www.chr=20 > on.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/business/1927461 >=20 > June 2, 2003, 1:23AM >=20 > Lessons in how to make $43 trillion disappear > By SCOTT BURNS > Universal Press Syndicate > ON Friday, May 16, the word was out. A $350 billion tax cut=20 > was a done deal. >=20 > So why did the stock market sink that day? Why did it plunge=20 > the following Monday, losing 2.5 percent of its value? >=20 > One possible explanation is Treasury Secretary John Snow and=20 > his comments on the dollar. Another is concern about new=20 > terrorist attacks. But let me suggest a third possibility.=20 > Despite efforts to suppress it, word is getting around we=20 > can't afford a tax cut. >=20 > The story starts one night in January, only days after=20 > Treasury Secretary Snow had replaced Paul O'Neill. A cell=20 > phone rang as two men were leaving a restaurant in Santa Fe,=20 > N.M. The caller told Boston University economist Laurence=20 > Kotlikoff that six months of work by two economists was going=20 > to be deleted from the president's budget. The budget was due=20 > to be published in February. I know this happened because I=20 > was the second man: Kotlikoff was in Santa Fe working on a=20 > book project with me. >=20 > The material to be deleted from the budget document was an=20 > updating of generational accounting. O'Neill had requested an=20 > estimate of the government's true long-term obligations. >=20 > The estimate would include the formal debt of the U.S.=20 > Treasury plus equally serious government promises to provide=20 > retirement income and medical care. (Readers who think=20 > promises of Social Security and Medicare aren't as serious as=20 > U.S. Treasury bond promises should visit the nearest elderly > person.) >=20 > The resulting information might easily have been lost in a=20 > document whose online girth is measured in megabytes. >=20 > Except for one thing. >=20 > The new accounting shows the United States is broke. >=20 > It shows the true obligations of government were 10 times=20 > larger than Treasury debt held by the public. It shows the=20 > present value of these unfunded obligations is a mind-numbing=20 > $43 trillion. >=20 > In a recent telephone conversation I asked one of the project=20 > economists, Jagadeesh Gokhale, why he thought his work was=20 > cut. Gokhale, a senior economist for the Federal Reserve Bank=20 > of Cleveland, was circumspect. He suggested the figures were=20 > a surprise to the new Treasury secretary. >=20 > Here's another interpretation: Snow's first task was to sell=20 > the president's tax cut. The sales job would be awkward if an=20 > official government document announced we were already $43=20 > trillion in the hole. >=20 > The Federal Reserve, by the way, recently put the net worth=20 > of all households at $39 trillion. This problem goes way=20 > beyond taxing the rich, the poor or the middle class. >=20 > So the generational accounting figures disappeared from the budget. >=20 > But they did not cease to exist. In early March the other=20 > economist on the project, Kent Smetters, testified before the=20 > Subcommittee on the Constitution of the United States in the=20 > House of Representatives. Smetters, an expert in Social=20 > Security and Medicare, is at the Wharton School in Philadelphia. >=20 > Asked to comment on the Balanced Budget Amendment, Smetters=20 > was direct, saying, "I support practically any effort to make=20 > it harder for one generation to pass large fiscal burdens to=20 > future generations ... ." >=20 > Unfortunately, he noted, government cash accounting is a poor=20 > basis for a Balanced Budget Amendment. "The government=20 > reports that the national debt in 2003 was about $3.8=20 > trillion in the form of government `debt held by the public.'=20 > But that number ignores massive imbalances in Medicare and=20 > Social Security programs and the government's other programs. >=20 > "When the liabilities associated with those programs are=20 > taken into account, the nation's fiscal policy is currently=20 > off-balance by over $43.4 trillion in present value, a number=20 > that is not reported in standard budget documents," he said=20 > (italics added). >=20 > The American Enterprise Institute will soon publish a=20 > pamphlet, co-authored by Jagadeesh Gokhale and Kent Smetters.=20 > The draft copy does more than lay out the size of the=20 > government's unfunded liabilities. It shows how much the=20 > current generation is benefiting at the expense of the next. >=20 > It shows, for instance, that past and current generations of=20 > Social Security recipients will receive $8.7 trillion more in=20 > benefits than they will pay in employment taxes. >=20 > Republicans and Democrats have distracted us with unending=20 > battles between haves and have-nots for decades. Over the=20 > same period they have bankrupted the country. >=20 > Perhaps that terror, not the terrorism of al-Qaida or=20 > currency traders, may explain the odd market decline after a=20 > tax cut that was supposed to make stocks soar. >=20 > Questions about personal finance and investments may be sent=20 > to Scott Burns, P.O. Box 655237, Dallas 75265; e-mail can be=20 > sent to scott@scottburns.com. 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